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re: Thoughts on Max's Spring Game film
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:21 pm to Wrucker16
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:21 pm to Wrucker16
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Myles going 0-11 on third down and not being able to score on 1st and goal from the 1 with the game on the line against Mizzou is good enough to beat Bama? Lol
It's not, but we have to assume he'll get better. We were terrible on 3rd down last year all year.
Also, the 1 yard line is when Myles had pretty painful rib injury he was playing through. I'll let that one go, especially after the numbers he put up all game. That is on the defense.
ETA:
I really don't have a preference who starts, but the things people point out to form their opinion of who should are pretty ridiculous.
Myles CLEARLY has more arm talent, Max CLEARLY is a better athlete. I trust Peetz can win with either.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 5:23 pm
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:24 pm to CatfishJohn
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I really don't have a preference who starts
Bingo. Both are capable of leading LSU to a great season if the OC does his job.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:37 pm to Wrucker16
But Brennan didn’t go 0-11 on 3rd down, the team did. We had a bunch of short yardage runs that didn’t convert and Brennan completed a few 3rd and longs that came up just short with a couple being converted on 4th. We never see people bring up Max’s 3rd down passing which was 17% because this is another incomplete and misleading narrative created from bias, not objectivity.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:50 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
You didn't even get a single number right, as all your numbers are completely bogus.
Nonetheless, I'm talking about four year head football coaches in the country today. Which doesn't include Saban and Dabo who have both been head coaches at their respective schools forever. In other words, apples to apples. Not apples to oranges.
Of course, not. Because not only are your numbers completely bogus, at the same time they are also not a valid comparison even if it weren't bogus.
Nonetheless, I'm talking about four year head football coaches in the country today. Which doesn't include Saban and Dabo who have both been head coaches at their respective schools forever. In other words, apples to apples. Not apples to oranges.
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That doesn't look "hands down" to me. Looks pretty damn good though.
Of course, not. Because not only are your numbers completely bogus, at the same time they are also not a valid comparison even if it weren't bogus.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:51 pm to Purple Tiger King
quote:Right. Max just had to settle for the guy who now has the SEC record for most receiving yards in a game and the exactly same receivers he will have this year. So are you saying Jenkins, Kirklin, and Moore aren't good enough for Max?
You forgot to mention that Myles had the benefit of Terrace Marshall and Arik Gilbert who were the leading receivers on this team until they opted out.
quote:Already debunked this at the top of page 4. Five players on defense. One starter, two second string, and two reserve players. Nice try though.
Not to mention that Myles accumulated his stats against a Mizzou team with half its defense missing in action due to Covid protocols and against the de facto worse football team in the SEC.
quote:Florida had the 83rd best defense, had multiple blown coverages, sat their best player for no reason, and threw a show. Ole Miss had the worse pass defense in the country, let our 4th and 5th string RBs combine for over 100yds, and their QB throw 5 interceptions.
While Max accumulated his stats in only his first start of his young career as only a true freshman in the Swamp against the number six Florida Gators and then against a very good Ole Miss team.
Also at what world is a 5-5 football team considered very good? Oh, in your world it is. That way you don't have to say Coach O had a bad season last year
quote:Right. The OL couldn't get a push on 1st and 2nd down letting TDP get stuffed. On 3rd down you try a QB sneak with guy who has a torn abdomen. Then on 4th down you call a rollout play for your non running QB with a torn abdomen to execute.
While Myles choked with the game on the line against that same Mizzou team who had half its team missing in action due to Covid protocols.
Meanwhile you have a 6'6 260 lb quarterback just sitting on the bench that the coaches conveniently ignore. Turns out that kid was pretty good at quarterback sneaks. For a while it was actually our best offensive play with him
quote:Hard to convert on third downs when you're averaging 3rd and 7 because you're running backs only get 53 yards the entire game. Compare that to Florida where we had over 100yds, an Ole Miss where Tre Bradford and the Walk-on combined for over 100 yd.
Not to mention that he was 0 for 10 on third down conversions in that game as well.
quote:Yeah it's called a jump ball? It's pretty much about half the touchdowns that Jamar caught from Joe in 2019. Guess that means Joe also had a lot of almost interceptions.
In fact, McGlothern thought he had an easy interception until Boutte came out of nowhere to snatch that ball at the last possible second.
quote:I never said anything about Max's ball getting intercepted. I said it shouldn't have counted because the defensive end pulled up and let Max throw the ball. It should have been recorded as a sack.
In fact, Myles' touchdown relative to Max's long touchdown was far closer to being intercepted. As Jontre used his body to shield the defender away from the ball.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:56 pm to TigerLunatik
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Orgeron has lost 12 games the last 4 years.
Bama has lost 4
Ohio State has lost 5
Clemson has lost 5
What are you doing? That has nothing to do with citing a coach in America who is in his fourth year as being the head coach that has as good of a record of success as Ed O. You can't read English?
Not to mention that Ohio State and Clemson are both second-rate schools that both play in second-rate conferences against primarily second-rate competition. You can't compare those two schools to teams in the SEC West unless you are severely mentally deficient in which I don't doubt for a second you are.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:57 pm to Purple Tiger King
quote:No they aren't? Those are the W-L for those three teams over the past 4 season
You didn't even get a single number right, as all your numbers are completely bogus.
If my numbers are wrong, then provide me the stats with a link proving it. quote:Oooh. You mean a stat so damn specific that it's hard to compare with the general population of college football coaches. That's a hell of a cherry pick
Nonetheless, I'm talking about four year head football coaches in the country today. Which doesn't include Saban and Dabo who have both been head coaches at their respective schools forever.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:58 pm to Purple Tiger King
“unless you are severely mentally deficient in which I don't doubt for a second you are.”
The irony of ironies
The irony of ironies
Posted on 8/5/21 at 5:59 pm to CatfishJohn
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You've repeated Spring game passing stats about 5 times in this fricking thread. Stop.
You can count? Wow, that's more than I thought you could do?
quote:
Spring game stats are really meaningless.
Of course, they are because your boy got obliterated. It really doesn't matter because your boy had already lost the QB derby in any event.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:01 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
He rejects any standardized or equal attempt to compare anything. Every example he gives is carefully hand picked and irrelevant. Instead of presenting all the data then objectively determining what it says he only chooses small samples and one offs that predetermine one outcome. It’s so obvious and stupid it’s hard to believe someone would be dumb enough to think people would buy it.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:06 pm to Purple Tiger King
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What are you doing? That has nothing to do with citing a coach in America who is in his fourth year as being the head coach that has as good of a record of success as Ed O. You can't read English?
You just said a four year head coach. A lot of coaches have been coaches for the last 4 years. No one would have guessed that even you would be dumb enough to only want to compare Orgeron to other coaches that started their first full season in 2017. That's ridiculously stupid.
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Not to mention that Ohio State and Clemson are both second-rate schools that both play in second-rate conferences against primarily second-rate competition. You can't compare those two schools to teams in the SEC West
So, now you only want to compare him to other coaches in the SEC West that started their first full season in 2017? How many more qualifiers do you want to put on this thing?
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:07 pm to Purple Tiger King
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That has nothing to do with citing a coach in America who is in his fourth year as being the head coach that has as good of a record of success as Ed O.
Nick Saban from 2007 to 2010 had a record of 43-11 with a national championship.
So a higher winning percentage with the same amount of championships, while always maintaining a winning record and playing in the SEC West.
Once again not "hands down"
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:09 pm to TigerLunatik
quote:
Purple Tiger King
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:22 pm to TigerDat
By your logic, Max will be dinking and dunking all season.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:28 pm to CatfishJohn
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Ole Miss had the 117th ranked scoring defense in the country last year.
Your boy went 0 for 10 on third down conversions against a Mizzou team with half its defense missing in action due to Covid protocols and with both Terrace Marshall and Arik Gilbert catching most of his passes.
Plus, your boy was a fifth year QB whose numbers should have been astronomically far better relative to a brand new true freshman QB fresh out of high school and still very wet behind the ears who also because of the Covid Pandemic didn't have nearly the number of practice reps other quarterbacks have gotten to transition from high school ball to the SEC. That's embarrassing!
Not to mention that all you Brennan homers all focus only on passing stats, when the reality is being a quality QB encompasses far more than only passing stats, and in all of the other aspects of being a quality QB, Max Johnson is far, far superior to Myles Brennan in every other aspect.
Meanwhile, today that also includes the passing stats you Myles' homers are completely focused only on and as illustrated by Max's far better passing stats in the spring game you like to ignore because they expose Myles mediocrity.
Hey look, I feel bad for Myles for breaking his arm and I have nothing against him and wish him well, but at the same time, he is obviously not close to being anywhere as good as Max is going into season, Which is why, for all intents and purposes. Myles has already loss the QB derby to Max Johnson. As it really hasn't been a legitimate competition for months.
Indeed, the LSU insiders have been telling us for months that the QB competition was over and that your boy had already lost it. In fact, they even read the texts messages on their show written by LSU players to prove what they were saying is true. Indeed, they did everything but reveal the name of the players.
Not to mention that Ed O said that he, his coaching staff, and all the players in the locker room all also knew who the impending starter would be because it was already very obvious to everyone.
Not to mention the coaching staff also told Jack Bech before he even graduated to go workout and gel with Max Johnson when he arrived on LSU's campus. He didn't say to go work out with Myles Brennan because first of all, Myles doesn't workout with players, but most of all because he had already lost the QB derby to Max.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:33 pm to CatfishJohn
Apparently, not nearly as severely mentally retarded as you are. I mean, it has been very obvious for months that your boy would never be the starter at LSU because he is simply not good enough.
Your boy needs to try to transfer to Ole Miss and go compete for the starting job over there or remain the backup for Max Johnson. As the only way he will ever start at LSU again at QB is if Max Johnson gets injured.
Meanwhile, I wouldn't be surprised if your boy doesn't even win the starting job at Ole Miss.
Your boy needs to try to transfer to Ole Miss and go compete for the starting job over there or remain the backup for Max Johnson. As the only way he will ever start at LSU again at QB is if Max Johnson gets injured.
Meanwhile, I wouldn't be surprised if your boy doesn't even win the starting job at Ole Miss.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:36 pm to Purple Tiger King
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against a Mizzou team with half its defense missing
Already been proven false. It's not true no matter how many times you repeat it.
quote:
the LSU insiders have been telling us for months that the QB competition was over and that your boy had already lost it.
Hunt Palmer said on AFR today that he heard Myles would likely have won the job.
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Not to mention that Ed O said that he, his coaching staff, and all the players in the locker room all also knew who the impending starter would be because it was already very obvious to everyone.
Also not true. Orgeron has clarified that statement multiple times by saying that the competition would play out until the week before the game.
Keep going though. You're really on a roll in this thread.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:40 pm to TigerLunatik
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If anyone on this board is actually Ponamsky,
Wow, your disdain and contempt for Ed O runs so deep that you even viciously attack his personal assistant? Sucks to be you. No wonder you are so obsessed with that gay head coach Tom Herman. Did he kiss you on the lips too?
By the way, when are you going to introduce me to this spacecowboy dude you are always falsely accusing me of being. He sounds like a real cool dude to me.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:40 pm to Purple Tiger King
Not my boy, don’t really care who starts. All aboard the Max train now.
You’re just fricking stupid, like actually clinically retarded stupid, and I joined the thread to say that.
You’re just fricking stupid, like actually clinically retarded stupid, and I joined the thread to say that.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:44 pm to Purple Tiger King
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Wow, your disdain and contempt for Ed O runs so deep that you even viciously attack his personal assistant?
How did I attack Ponamsky?
quote:
No wonder you are so obsessed with that gay head coach Tom Herman.
I haven't mentioned him since he was hired at Texas other to say that he's a fricking clown and responding to your posts.
quote:
when are you going to introduce me to this spacecowboy dude you are always falsely accusing me of being.
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