re: this team is not as bad as they looked last night

Naw!! I'm afraid the team last night is indicative of an O coached LSU team. More to come.

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c'mon man, is that the kind of teammate you were when you participated in sports?

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No. I did not participate in sports. I was a born outdoosman so I joined Boy Scouts and was Senior Patrol Leader of my troop for 21 months and achieved Eagle rank. At an early age I had a gift for being a good judge of character. I organized several community service projects and recognized the strengths and weaknesses of those assisting, and delegated to their strengths while leading from the front.

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in other words, throw in the towel

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You could look at it that way. Or you could see it this way- ... because of our personnel (recruits from the previous regime), we are still predicated on being a run first offense. Our supposedly Heisman candidate running back can't find his groove in an offense not dominated by complex run blocking schemes, such as the one Miles ran.

Our OL is basically non existent due to transfers and other issues. There likely won't be a major epiphany across the entire young line (especially with Grimes still coaching them) this season, which will suddenly develop them into a top 10 OL.

Don't know yet whether to blame Mickey Joseph or the receivers themselves, but the young guys are not learning quickly like they need to and our veteran superstar (Chark) is making freshman mistakes.

Our defense is not your typical LSU defense. It reminds me of 2013. That year and this year both follow a mass draft/graduation exodus of upperclassmen starters, many of which became first round picks. Somehow, we let ourselves believe that this defense this year wouldn't miss a step after losing 5 starters to the NFL. That's also on us.

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if these guys have any balls, this game will piss them off and they will work their arse off to improve

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If these guys had any balls, they would have showed up holding them last night. And if they did show up with any balls last night, MSU utterly emasculated them.

These guys will improve. They're probably going to completely eviscerate poor old Syracuse in humiliating fashion. But eventually, SEC play will come back around and here we go again. So I'm not saying throw in the towel- I'm saying build for the future. It's clear already that we are completely and embarrassingly unprepared to make a run to Atlanta this year. Alabama will likely have their backups in on us sometime during the 3rd quarter. This is not the year.

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EVERYTHING went wrong last night

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This is correct. And championship caliber teams don't have nights where EVERYTHING goes wrong. I may be off here but the last time I can vividly recall a team that had their arse handed to them during the regular season and still went on to win the NCG, was LSU in 2003 after the 35-7 (iirc) loss to Florida. But that team was Saban's. This team is not. This is a first year HC and OC, a second year DC, and several other first year staffers.

It's not gonna be this year. Yes, I want them to rise above the abortion that was last night. I want them to play hard, learn, and overcome it. And I will continue to watch and support them no matter what happens. But it won't happen this year. So I'm looking ahead to next year.

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Why? How in frick can you defend this retard? Please go join the ULL fanbase

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Please GFY.

This team is not going to improve with Orgeron. I can guarantee that. He just isn't a good head coach and doesn't have the knowledge to run a successful program.

His main pitch for the job was that he was a terrible head coach at Ole Miss but he has learned what not to do this time. And he promised he wouldn't coach. Alleva hiring him was ridiculous and it still is.

This loss is so much different than any other loss in the last few years. This team was exposed. Orgeron is useless. He is responsible for turning this around but he doesnt know what the hell is even going on.

The only hope is that Aranda makes a power play and takes over.

I think your observations on 'what happened' are spot on and we likely will improve. Though a first year head-coach who has to prove himself should've had this team more-ready and toughened up.

Most of what you say is fixable except 2 things
1) Danny Etling's Passing - He was missing them by a lot, unlikely he improves drastically. Imagine what Bama would do with him.
2) O's coaching (game readiness, penalties) - If you aint got it, you aint got it. 24-31 is solid proof he doesn't have what it takes. This IS his last audition and he messed up the first minute, not good for him or LSU this year.

7-5

Thats how this ends.

Mmmmmm.....maybe....but they didn't look too good, either......

Forget it grandad, we literally have the shittiest, crybaby fans in the country and its not even close. Not close. I'm just going to sit back and watch from here on out. You can't have a civil conversation with these people. They're immature brats to say the least.

We did have some good moments which were halted by penalties. Some were legit many were legal plays that these refs just didn't agree with. It was the worst officiating I've ever seen in my life, but it's easy to just blame O. They never liked him to begin with.

Fact is they are stuck with him which will make my days of reading all the more glorious. Nothing better than a brat who has to do something they can't stand and you get to watch it play out.

I won't be giving O any credit either until he's beaten a ranked opponent and hopefully beats them like a drum. I won't be spewing hatred for LSU either though. It is what it is. The game happened, it's over, time to move along and see how they respond. I'll stop there. See y'all after Florida to either say I was dead wrong or say I told you so. Oh and if we beat auburn I'll probably be kicked from this site for blowing it up with, O is great threads. If Bama happens, well I'll be obnoxious as frick. And they will deserve it. At this point though they are children.

My god you are a special kind of stupid.

Fellow granddad, this was embarrassing.

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My god you are a special kind of stupid.

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I might be but if you think Orgeron has this team headed in the right direction then you are just delusional. Not a single supporter of O has given a legit reason why Orgeron is a good coach. Show me the light so i can feel better. I would love to support him but he just doesnt make a good head coach and i can give a million reasons why it is a bad hire. You cant give any reason that shows he was qualified for the job. Or name one time this year that he coached well. You can't.