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re: This should be the batting order vs miss st

Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:08 am to
Posted by LSUFAN227
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:08 am to
Also, why do you and other people immediately resort to this "you don't know shite about the team" or "watching your first game" poop flinging any time someone comes in with a differing opinion or suggestion. I know, I know, you Tigerdroppings elites get the big head based on your couple hundred thousand posts, or whatever, and hate it when people call out PM or make exaggerated statements, but really??

It's nonsensical and completely unsupported. You make yourself look like an elitist DB. I'm not even going to make statements about how much I've watched this team, or how long I've closely followed our past teams, because I can't offer any supporting evidence. Much like you, who can't offer any to counter it. So, lets just keep it focused on the topic at hand, and if you have information to counter, or even answer a question that I or any OP have, OFFER IT. Because it would be much appreciated.

Specifically, I can tell you that it would have made my brain hurt much less if I knew there was an actual reason Hayden wasn't playing as much as I thought he should have been.

Anyway, I love this team, and hope that we have the best players on the field, giving their max effort moving forward (which includes Beloso, Milazzo, or whoever is in the game). We are going to need it moving into SEC play because there is no rest for the weary in this league.
Posted by LSUFAN227
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
513 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:10 am to
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Considering there are people making millions of dollars doing just this, yeah, I think it's desired.


If you think hitting 270/280 in the bigs compares to equally or even close to college, then I really don't know what to tell you.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18866 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:11 am to
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show me where I bitch? Copy and paste here....you cant. Maybe you and your alters should go away

Like half of the stuff you have said in this thread is false statistics that you made up to make our team look worse than they actually are..
Posted by LSUFAN227
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
513 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:13 am to
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For fricks sake man...I'm glad you aren't making the lineup


OP lineup looks pretty good to me, why don't you offer your idea of the lineup instead of that do nothing comment?
Posted by Tigercruiser56
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2020
131 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:22 am to
Beloso is hitting the ball hard. His hits will come. He has seen more SEC pitching than anyone else in the starting lineup.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:24 am to
Let’s take a gander at OP’s lineup:

A couple of quick questions immediately come to mind.

1. Why would you have Travinski batting 6th behind Sanford?
2. Why is Sanford in the lineup? Is he the DH?
3. Why would you have Crews leading off when we’d be better off getting him more ABs with runners on base?

In addition, I get that it’s fun to ignore that there are other aspects to baseball besides hitting but you simply can’t overrate what Milazzo brings to the team from behind the plate.

As for this comment:
quote:

Take ur pc on the dh.. either Sanford or gio


Is this suggesting the DH should be either Sanford or Gio?
Posted by sportsfan
Member since Feb 2011
4302 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:27 am to
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If you think hitting 270/280 in the bigs compares to equally or even close to college, then I really don't know what to tell you.


Obviously hitting .270 in the MLB is much more difficult and I don't think you'll find anyone on the planet to dispute that. But that batting average in college ball is considered just as productive as that average in the MLB.

This argument is about who is or isn't producing in the LSU lineup, not who will well on the next level.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87976 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:30 am to
You don’t have to hit 0.400 in college to be a good hitter in the pros. There are tons of examples of high percentage guys failing in the minors (Raph Rhymes) and sub 0.300 hitters making it to the pros (Austin Nola).
Posted by LSUFAN227
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
513 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:54 am to
This is strictly about Beloso, and how he is hitting at this moment as compared to others. I do think he should get a nod at the starting job this weekend.

Deaux, I'm with you and I'm not on Dylan. Ok with him being in the 1 spot since he has mashed there this year. Love him getting up there and getting the first crack and setting the tone, and there is definitely a new train of thought to have your guy in the leadoff spot. See Ronald Acuna for the Braves, Mookie for the Dodgers, Springer (in the past) for the Stros, etc. I'd like to see him get more opportunities with runners on for sure, and maybe switch he and Tre, or get Gio up there if he comes in and starts hitting. But, Tre would not have the RBI numbers he has without Dylan hitting in front of him. Best opportunity to score runs is getting guys on base before others come up, and Dylan has been our most productive in doing that. I'm sure, or at least I hope, he would tell you that he prefers the team to score as opposed to his RBI numbers. Seems to be working so far, so why change a good thing?

As far as the rest, for this weekend my perfect lineup would be:

With Hayden catching:

1) Crews
2) Morgan
3) Doughty
4) Dugas
5) Travinski
6) Beloso
7) Arnold/Thompson
8) Thompson/Arnold
9) Gio

With Milazzo catching:

1) Crews
2) Morgan
3) Doughty
4) Dugas
5) Travinski
6) Thompson/Arnold
7) Thompson/Arnold
8) Milazzo
9) Gio

I'm a sucker for the 9 hole second leadoff though.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73288 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:07 am to
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We will be run on badly if Travinski is back there.

I don’t think Travinski is even healthy enough to go multiple games or even a whole game at catcher yet. That’s why he was limited to 4 innings last night behind the plate
This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 10:08 am
Posted by LSUFAN227
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
513 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:10 am to
Also, you are absolutely correct that there is a major factor in playing good defense and Milazzo is almost certainly the best catcher on the team.

It just seems that if Hayden is at least a capable catcher, then having his bat in the lineup far outweighs the benefit of having Milazzo in there strictly for defensive purposes.

At this point, I'd like to see a platoon type situation, where Hayden gets the start at catcher, then we bring in Milazzo at the end of the game. At that point do a double switch of sorts and move Hayden to the DH (not 100% sure you can sub a DH like that, but I hope you can).

Obviously, if Hayden does ultimately suck at catching, which I don't believe he does, and its costing us, then Milazzo gets the nod. Hopefully, that's not the case.
Posted by BlairNTexasTiger
Dallas, Texas
Member since Mar 2021
210 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Let’s take a gander at OP’s lineup:

A couple of quick questions immediately come to mind.

1. Why would you have Travinski batting 6th behind Sanford?
2. Why is Sanford in the lineup? Is he the DH?
3. Why would you have Crews leading off when we’d be better off getting him more ABs with runners on base?

In addition, I get that it’s fun to ignore that there are other aspects to baseball besides hitting but you simply can’t overrate what Milazzo brings to the team from behind the plate.

As for this comment:
quote:
Take ur pc on the dh.. either Sanford or gio


Is this suggesting the DH should be either Sanford or Gio?

I'm suggesting yes either one dh and other bat in his spot...I feel like Sanford is a solid hitter, doesn't strike out much and will contribute, tbh I'm not sold on gio just by going on sec stats...maybe this yr he will be better but..we will see....I don't switch Crews altho i think he is a true 3 hole....leave line up like it is...its working I guess...if u change one guy it can result in 3 or 4 order changes and may mess with the chemistry...and look about millazzo, no doubt he can catch but look when u come to lsu , you should be coached and ready for next man up and travinski should be ready. We all know he hits better and will give us enough defense to win...jmo...
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
7487 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:18 am to
quote:

This should be the batting order for miss st



quote:

Crews
Morgan
Doughty
Dugas
Sanford
Travinski
Arnold
Thompson
Gio


Those are all LSU players. Sorry, it was just too easy.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87976 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:18 am to
You type like you're a 14 year old.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
10682 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:18 am to
Milazzo and Beloso will be in the lineup on Friday night. Travinski will get his pinch hit at some point. Beloso will likely have a game (or most of a game) to himself on Sunday, be it behind the plate or at DH.

I just don't see PM running his rehabbing pinch hit guy out there behind the plate to start conference. And, I don't see PM sitting Beloso to start conference, either, when he's really the only guy with experience there.

Not sure if Gio is ready yet. Maybe we see him for a few innings/ABs here and there this weekend then ramp up more next week. I think Gio would have started and played more yesterday if he was ready.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73288 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:18 am to
quote:

and sub 0.300 hitters making it to the pros (Austin Nola).

Jacoby Jones
quote:

There are tons of examples of high percentage guys failing in the minors

Yep, most of them fail
Posted by 9th Green At 9
From where they make gumbo at
Member since Jul 2015
3044 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:29 am to
quote:

OP lineup looks pretty good to me, why don't you offer your idea of the lineup instead of that do nothing comment?
Sure thing, pal

RF Crews
1B Morgan
3B Doughty
DH Travinski
LF Dugas
CF Gio
2B Arnold
C Milazzo
SS Thompson

ETA: Thompson and Gio are interchangeable, IMO
This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 10:32 am
Posted by 9th Green At 9
From where they make gumbo at
Member since Jul 2015
3044 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 10:34 am to
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I don’t think Travinski is even healthy enough to go multiple games or even a whole game at catcher yet. That’s why he was limited to 4 innings last night behind the plate
This, and Moo State leads the league in stolen bases/attempts. Milazzo needs to be behind the dish this weekend.
Posted by BlairNTexasTiger
Dallas, Texas
Member since Mar 2021
210 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 11:00 am to
quote:

You type like you're a 14 year old.
and u have 70 THOUSAND POST....find a life
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37860 posts
Posted on 3/17/21 at 12:29 pm to
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Moo State leads the league in stolen bases/attempts. Milazzo needs to be behind the dish this weekend.



This concept is way above the intelligence level of several people posting in this thread, who had probably never heard of Hayden Travinski until about a week ago.

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