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re: This McMahon vs Wade thing is stupid
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:23 pm to drizztiger
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:23 pm to drizztiger
Doesn’t matter if they were investigating or not. Just to have the three letters FBI mentioned in the same breath isn’t something any administration of any university wants to face.
Report: FBI continues investigation into Will Wade, LSU basketball in Baton Rouge visit
BY JEFF NOWAK | Staff writer Mar 25, 2021 Updated Mar 25, 2021
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Outside of difficulties caused by the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, Will Wade coached LSU men's basketball without incident throughout the 2020 season.
But the Tigers coach remains under investigation by both the FBI and NCAA stemming from a sweeping probe of corruption in college recruiting that engulfed Wade and the program throughout much of his 4-year tenure.
According to a report from Sports Illustrated, citing sources, federal investigators were in Baton Rouge recently in connection the the investigation. The report did not specify when that visit occurred or what it entailed.
LSU spokesman Michael Bonnette told Sports Illustrated that the school was not aware of any official requests or visit by federal investigators regarding the investigation.
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LSU head coach Will Wade greets LSU guard Javonte Smart (1) as he subs out in the first half of the SEC/Big 12 Challenge against Texas Tech, Saturday, January 30, 2021, at the LSU PMAC in Baton Rouge, La.
STAFF PHOTO BY HILARY SCHEINUK
Wade was suspended when the news of the investigation broke during the 2018 season. He was replaced on the sidelines by former assistant Tony Benford throughout postseason play, which ended in a run to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament. Wade was reinstated the following April, coaching all 58 games played by LSU since.
NCAA: LSU's Will Wade offered 'impermissible payments' to at least 11 potential recruits
NCAA: LSU's Will Wade offered 'impermissible payments' to at least 11 potential recruits
The investigation hinged on wiretapped recordings with federally convicted middleman Christian Dawkins, which were later featured in an HBO documentary "The Scheme." One of those recordings was of a conversation involving a "strong-arse offer" and references to "the Smart thing," believed to be in reference to Javonte Smart's ongoing recruitment.
Smart was also held out of the Tigers' final regular season game that season, but returned for postseason play. The Baton Rouge native remains with the program, finishing his junior season in LSU's loss to Michigan in this year's NCAA Tournament.
It is unknown when a report will be made on either investigation's findings, or what penalties -- if any -- the program and Wade could face.
For the full report from Sports Illustrated, click here.
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Report: FBI continues investigation into Will Wade, LSU basketball in Baton Rouge visit
BY JEFF NOWAK | Staff writer Mar 25, 2021 Updated Mar 25, 2021
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Outside of difficulties caused by the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, Will Wade coached LSU men's basketball without incident throughout the 2020 season.
But the Tigers coach remains under investigation by both the FBI and NCAA stemming from a sweeping probe of corruption in college recruiting that engulfed Wade and the program throughout much of his 4-year tenure.
According to a report from Sports Illustrated, citing sources, federal investigators were in Baton Rouge recently in connection the the investigation. The report did not specify when that visit occurred or what it entailed.
LSU spokesman Michael Bonnette told Sports Illustrated that the school was not aware of any official requests or visit by federal investigators regarding the investigation.
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LSU head coach Will Wade greets LSU guard Javonte Smart (1) as he subs out in the first half of the SEC/Big 12 Challenge against Texas Tech, Saturday, January 30, 2021, at the LSU PMAC in Baton Rouge, La.
STAFF PHOTO BY HILARY SCHEINUK
Wade was suspended when the news of the investigation broke during the 2018 season. He was replaced on the sidelines by former assistant Tony Benford throughout postseason play, which ended in a run to the Sweet 16 of the NCAA Tournament. Wade was reinstated the following April, coaching all 58 games played by LSU since.
NCAA: LSU's Will Wade offered 'impermissible payments' to at least 11 potential recruits
NCAA: LSU's Will Wade offered 'impermissible payments' to at least 11 potential recruits
The investigation hinged on wiretapped recordings with federally convicted middleman Christian Dawkins, which were later featured in an HBO documentary "The Scheme." One of those recordings was of a conversation involving a "strong-arse offer" and references to "the Smart thing," believed to be in reference to Javonte Smart's ongoing recruitment.
Smart was also held out of the Tigers' final regular season game that season, but returned for postseason play. The Baton Rouge native remains with the program, finishing his junior season in LSU's loss to Michigan in this year's NCAA Tournament.
It is unknown when a report will be made on either investigation's findings, or what penalties -- if any -- the program and Wade could face.
For the full report from Sports Illustrated, click here.
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Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:24 pm to cmacatl13
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Whether or not Wade was guilty is irrelevant. He was asked to come forward and explain/defend himself. He refused. He lawyered up. The admins gave him another shot and a short leash provided Wade could at the least answer some simple questions. He lied. LSU is 1st and foremost an institution of higher learning and must protect that responsibility above all else. When you have ncaa allegations, true or false and then throw in the threat of an fbi investigation they had absolutely no choice but to cut ties. It’s that simple.
Thanks for showing your ignorance. He was terminated under a provision that was added to his contract in 2019 when he sat down with LSU.
The point on guilty or innocence was that there are people claiming he had to be fired to avoid major sanctions. That is incorrect. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence knew that the NCAA could not prove most of the allegations it put in the NOA. Spoiler Alert: without proving these allegations, neither Wade nor LSU was going to get this with major sanctions. Meaning LSU didn't do it to avoid sanctions, they did it to get rid of a coach that Woodward and Tate didn't like.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:25 pm to cmacatl13
So we let bad PR be the deciding factor in our decision. Great call.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:25 pm to drizztiger
Don’t let the fact that multiple media outlets reported and confirmed the fbi investigation including LSU’s media department.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:26 pm to cmacatl13
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Don’t let the fact that multiple media outlets reported and confirmed the fbi investigation including LSU’s media department.
Again, keep showing your ignorance. The FBI usually doesn't tell you they are investigating someone else. The target of the investigation may eventually get notice, but they don't tell others about it. So what you are reading is media speculation.
Also, LSU didn't fire him 2019 and 2020 when all that was going on. He was fired in 2022 AFTER all of that ended.
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:35 pm to ellessuuuu
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ellessuuuu
Let it go or join a McNeese board.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:36 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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Let it go or join a McNeese board.
Strong intellectual input, thanks for contributing to the conversation.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:37 pm to ellessuuuu
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Thanks for showing your ignorance. He was terminated under a provision that was added to his contract in 2019 when he sat down with LSU.
You mean the meeting where he told bold-faced lies to the administration? Yeah, the provision was "we're going to give you the benefit of the doubt, but don't make us regret it." He made them regret it.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:38 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
That’s actually not what the provision said. Reading comprehension is important.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:39 pm to ellessuuuu
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Strong intellectual input, thanks for contributing to the conversation.
You are incapable of intellectual discourse, so why would I waste my time?
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:40 pm to ellessuuuu
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That’s actually not what the provision said. Reading comprehension is important.
Feel free to post the contract, Sharon.Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:42 pm to Superfluous Tiger
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And it’s not about McMahon vs Wade. Is about people who still like Wade vs people who (now) don’t like Wade.
No, it's about people who have some weird infatuation with Wade and a bunch of people who realize he fricked up royally and put his bosses in a terrible position.
I have nothing personal against the guy, but he deserved to get fired.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 1:45 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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It says if the NCAA issues an NOA with L1 or L2 violations LSU can fire Wade. Nowhere does it say Wade has made any representations that such allegations would not be made.
This also goes back to my earlier point that the NCAA made allegations in the NOA that it knew could be proven and ultimately would not be the basis for any sanctions. The NCAA relied on anonymous sourced information to make the allegations knowing that anonymous sourced information cannot be used to issue sanctions. It did this to make sure it gave LSU the ammunition to fire Wade and avoid a buyout.
ETA. And since Woody and Tate wanted him gone anyway, they obliged.
It says if the NCAA issues an NOA with L1 or L2 violations LSU can fire Wade. Nowhere does it say Wade has made any representations that such allegations would not be made.
This also goes back to my earlier point that the NCAA made allegations in the NOA that it knew could be proven and ultimately would not be the basis for any sanctions. The NCAA relied on anonymous sourced information to make the allegations knowing that anonymous sourced information cannot be used to issue sanctions. It did this to make sure it gave LSU the ammunition to fire Wade and avoid a buyout.
ETA. And since Woody and Tate wanted him gone anyway, they obliged.
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:13 pm to ellessuuuu
Crickets…
Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:17 pm to cmacatl13
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Don’t let the fact that multiple media outlets reported and confirmed the fbi investigation including LSU’s media department.
You can’t be serious. If I go anywhere else on TD and mention the media, I would be met with vigorous skepticism of the validity of accurate reporting, yet here you are using media reports as facts.
What actual investigation was the FBI doing on Will Wade?
Again, this is completely laughable and shows you know absolutely nothing. If anything, Wade was being extorted and would have been the victim in any criminal investigation.
I can’t express enough how ignorant you are of what actually transpired. Unfortunately, drive by lurkers will skim some of the nonsense you’ve spouted and store it in memory as truth, when in all reality you’re absolutely full of shite.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 2:44 pm to ellessuuuu
The provision was put in place after his 1st suspension when he lawyered up and refused to talk like a straight bitch. His lies doomed him. And the fbi made it crystal clear they were investigating the private. He refused to provide plausible explanations for the majority of the allegations and lied. The end result was he was found guilty of rules infractions.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 3:24 pm to cmacatl13
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Don’t let the fact that multiple media outlets reported and confirmed the fbi investigation including LSU’s media department.
Every time I think you are the dumbest person on here, you do something to up the ante. Its quite impressive actually.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 3:26 pm to cmacatl13
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His lies doomed him.
What lies did he tell?
Please include sources and quotes.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 3:45 pm to drizztiger
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If I go anywhere else on TD and mention the media, I would be met with vigorous skepticism of the validity of accurate reporting, yet here you are using media reports as facts.
Tell us you're a Political Talk poster without saying it.
Posted on 2/29/24 at 3:45 pm to rutiger
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What lies did he tell?
Please include sources and quotes.
Well, he sure did take a multi-million dollar haircut without argument...
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 3:46 pm
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