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re: this is what pisses me off about the bcs
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:07 pm to Hulkklogan
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:07 pm to Hulkklogan
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Then they need to schedule better teams, it's not like they don't have control over that. They don't beat but maybe 1 respectable team per season
do you hear mooing as you move throughout the day?
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:29 pm to Bleeding purple
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do you hear mooing as you move throughout the day?
Insults will get you nowhere in any life situation.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:34 pm to Hulkklogan
Not intending to insult just to insinuate that you need to breakout from the herd mentality. The statements I quoted were simply incorrect and are continually perpetuated by those that are moving through this process like cattle.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:58 pm to Bleeding purple
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Not intending to insult just to insinuate that you need to breakout from the herd mentality. The statements I quoted were simply incorrect and are continually perpetuated by those that are moving through this process like cattle.
I don't follow the herd, I voice my own opinion 24/7. Granted this season for TCU is different considering they played more top 25 teams, and I would agree that Oregon doesn't deserve to be above them because they have played an even worse schedule. But, generally speaking, Boise/TCU have stupid easy schedules and that's why they don't get into the NC.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 8:24 pm to Bleeding purple
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TCU 2010 is better than TCU 2009
Ok. I will buy that. Would BSU not be better as well? They had 5 seniors on their entire roster last year. Youngest team in the country by 4 seniors. I would argue they are significantly better than last year.
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The TCU squad from 2008 which was not nearly as good as 2010 beat that same BSU team that you speak of.
Same? In 2008, 1/3 of this Boise team was in high school. I know it is not a science when comparing different seasons, but a bowl game played in this calendar year is a little more telling than one that happened in 2009.
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Org 2009 was not what Org 2010 is
I agree, the lost their starting QB, Running back, and 14 other seniors.
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(Boise), the stats speak fo(r) themselves
I am pretty sure the stats are mush. TCU has more yards, Boise more points, TCU has a better defense, but that defense was even better last year and Kellen Moore was a year younger but still cut them up nicely.
The point is that Boise and TCU are each others worst enemy. If you cannot decide who is the best out of the non-AQ schools, you certainly cannot decide which one, if either, should play in the NC. I just wish you both would have played big time programs last year in the bowl games. It would be an easier year for you both, win or lose that game.
Posted on 11/12/10 at 12:17 am to latiger89
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TigersandFrogs, mainly what people are telling you is, that it is easy to get up for one game. Try getting up and staying up for 3 to 4 games in a row. Not to mention the physical beating your team takes by playing LSU, Florida, Alabama, Auburn and Arkansas week in and week out. Oh by the way, Tenn. Ol'Miss, Miss. State and South Carolina. That's really the point people are trying to get accross to you. Why would one of these schools Schedule you when they already have to play this schedule. I think LSU is stupid for playing the OOC teams they have played and will play in the future. Next year we will have to travel to play Oregan and W. Virginia not to mention our regular Schedule- to Alabama, Florida, Tenn., Miss. State. I think we deserve a break now and then. Unlike your school every week. Until TCU plays a schedule like that, I think you should be quit and leave this board because what you argue is a joke.
Oh, I get it. So Oregon and every other BCS conference champion plays that schedule too. Thanks for clearing that up. I understand football gooder now.
You can keep comparing TCU and Boise's schedules to the SEC, but you're making a straw man argument--nobody is saying there is any comparison. Now, compare them to the schedules that the PAC 10, Big 10, Big 12, Big East, and ACC teams play and you'll see there isn't much of a difference and in some cases their schedules are much better.
Posted on 11/12/10 at 12:30 am to Hulkklogan
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In the current system that is not a good excuse
"we're a good team that plays bad teams" Then they need to schedule better teams, it's not like they don't have control over that.
Schedule better teams! Why didn't we think of that?!?!?!?
Thanks, you can go away now.
Posted on 11/12/10 at 12:31 am to TIGERSandFROGS
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Schedule better teams! Why didn't we think of that?!?!?!?
Thanks, you can go away now.
so are they scared or what?
Posted on 11/12/10 at 12:39 am to dreaux
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so are they scared or what?
Wouldn't go so far as saying they're scared, but they certainly realize a loss is possible and a win doesn't help them, so why bother? Not saying that's right, but that's the argument they make. It just pisses me off when a coach (Saban has a few times) brings up non-BCS teams not scheduling tough BCS teams in OOC play, as if they weren't trying and as if he didn't know they were trying and coaches like him weren't doing it. It's actually pretty insulting to the intelligence of everyone he says it to, but being smug and thinking he is superior is par for the course for Saban.
Posted on 11/12/10 at 1:13 am to TIGERSandFROGS
T&F I'm likeing this tag team approach to educating the masses.
I'm going to enjoy being back in FtWorth to watch TCU dominate SanDiegoSt this weekend. Of course the detractors will point to how much of a patsy they are. Missouri sure didnt think they were too tough did they? Thank God they made that last minute TD huh? Nor did AF who was knocked out of the top 25 by them.
I'm going to enjoy being back in FtWorth to watch TCU dominate SanDiegoSt this weekend. Of course the detractors will point to how much of a patsy they are. Missouri sure didnt think they were too tough did they? Thank God they made that last minute TD huh? Nor did AF who was knocked out of the top 25 by them.
Posted on 11/12/10 at 1:33 am to TIGERSandFROGS
TCU's game this weekend is against a pretty solid SDSU (7-2) team (#27 in AP amd USA Today Rankings). It will be interesting to see if there's any "letdown" following a big win... This is the type of opponent that even the best of teams sometimes tends to shoot itself in the foot against.
TCU's version of a letdown means they may let Aztecs hang 10 points on them. Final score 41-13.
Do y'all think LSU's final score will be anywhere near that solid this weekend?
TCU's version of a letdown means they may let Aztecs hang 10 points on them. Final score 41-13.
Do y'all think LSU's final score will be anywhere near that solid this weekend?
Posted on 11/12/10 at 1:58 am to yurintroubl
Utah, TCU, and Boise St would win the Big East or the ACC this season. Yet the teams in those conferences would get a straight pass just because of the conference they play in. Just because they play in an AQ conference. And when the non-AQ teams beat the AQ teams, all we hear are excuses. Alabama wasnt motivated. Boise used trick plays. bullshite. And those teams are more than ready to schedule teams from AQ conferences, but then again, all we hear from AQ teams is more excuses. We have nothing to gain. Really, what are they scared of? Losing the game? If they were the big bad BCS team they think they are, they should be able to handle any team from a non-AQ conference, right? So when they do end up playing each other, when the BCS team wins it is because they are supposed to, but when they lose it's because their opponent was more motivated? Disconnect much?
Posted on 11/12/10 at 5:31 am to yurintroubl
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TCU's version of a letdown means they may let Aztecs hang 10 points on them. Final score 41-13.
Do y'all think LSU's final score will be anywhere near that solid this weekend?
Fair enough.
LSU playing Bama and then ULM is probably on par with playing Utah and then SDSU.
Posted on 11/12/10 at 7:25 am to zztop1234
I'm pretty sure the rule states, "any undefeated non-BCS conference team gets an automatic bid to a BCS bowl game"
I agree with that, but putting them in the NC game, or even discussing it, c'mon man...
I agree with that, but putting them in the NC game, or even discussing it, c'mon man...
Posted on 11/12/10 at 7:45 am to Florida225
There is no rule that even comes close to saying that. There is a rule that says a conference champ of a non-AQ conference in the top 12 (or 16) automatically is in the BCS. No requirement (written) to be undefeated.
This post was edited on 11/12/10 at 7:52 am
Posted on 11/12/10 at 7:50 am to Florida225
Most people say the answer is a playoff, yet fail to show:
1) how is it going to work?
2) will it necessarily make it fair?
I don't think so. If your cut-off is 4 teams then 8 teams will have an argument; if your cut-off is 8 teams then 10-16 teams will have an argument.
As for Boise and TCU they want to be treated like the "Big Boys" yet they want to get paid like the McAndCheese St of the world, the temporary solution for them is to schedule 2 and 1s because a 1 and 1 is just unfair to the bigger programs when you consider the size of their stadium and blue turf (wear blue jerseys
). Boise has refused to do 2 and 1s, that's the only way BCS teams will play them.
1) how is it going to work?
2) will it necessarily make it fair?
I don't think so. If your cut-off is 4 teams then 8 teams will have an argument; if your cut-off is 8 teams then 10-16 teams will have an argument.
As for Boise and TCU they want to be treated like the "Big Boys" yet they want to get paid like the McAndCheese St of the world, the temporary solution for them is to schedule 2 and 1s because a 1 and 1 is just unfair to the bigger programs when you consider the size of their stadium and blue turf (wear blue jerseys
). Boise has refused to do 2 and 1s, that's the only way BCS teams will play them.This post was edited on 11/12/10 at 7:52 am
Posted on 11/12/10 at 8:23 am to DrEdgeLSU
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LSU playing Bama and then ULM is probably on par with playing Utah and then SDSU.
Both ULM and SDSU should rightfully be in the FCS. But I digress.
The FBS can have a playoff system just like the FCS. It would ential decreasing the 12 week schedule back to 10 weeks; play conf championships in the 11th week; begin a 3 week playoff and conclude with a NCG in late Dec.
Then the traditional bowls during the holidays can go back to pitting conf champs against other conf.
As an added benefit, an FBS playoff would elimiate half the idiotic bowl games and make the surviving 15 or so bowls a lot more meaningful. Damned, the way it's going, pretty soon there'll be 60 bowl games. A 2-10 team can go to "Bob's Bar, Diner and Revue" Soybean Bowl in Enid, Oklahoma. WTF!?!
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