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This is the result of hiring someone on what they promise, not what they have done

Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:02 pm
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6925 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:02 pm
"The Binder" has become a punchline on here, but the sad reality is that's why Orgeron is here today. He sat in the office and sold Alleva a bill of goods. He painted a picture of "stealing" away Kiffen from Saban and bringing along Tua Tagovailoa with him. He spoke of landing a whole bus load of 5* kids, and the top ranked BR kids he would keep home. And he name dropped other assistants he would have here in a flash if he got the job.

Fast forward 8 months and almost done of what he promised has actually happened yet. Maybe he turns the corner this week and beyond, and in a few years we all look back and laugh at this bumpy start. But the real culprit here is, as usual, Alleva. I don't blame Oregon or Ponamsky, or whoever else for stumping for the job and selling themselves. That's what they should do. But a competent AD should be able to see through that and hire based on verifiable facts, not pipe dreams
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58123 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:04 pm to
Posted by Bengal26
Member since Oct 2014
1777 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:04 pm to
What more do y'all clowns want to be said about this shite? THE SAME THREAD HAS BEEN POSTED ABOUT 15 times in one week! GTF over it!!!!!
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:08 pm to
Well he kept Aranda and got a coveted OC. And he hadn't had much time to recruit. He's only had 1 class as recruiting cord and 1 as HC and it wasn't even permanent until 2 mo before recruits even knew he would get the job. However what we saw discipline wise and certain decisions after the coordinators come into ? For sure. O's 2nd shot as a HC shouldn't have been Lsu (see kiffen) but alleva did it so he deserves a fair shot.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43894 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:11 pm to
I'm surprised "The Binder" punchline has stayed pretty much as an exclusive punchline within our fanbase.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103053 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:20 pm to
Up vote. O IS THE CLASSIC USED CAR SALESMAN
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6925 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:25 pm to
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Well he kept Aranda and got a coveted OC.

I agree, he should get credit for that
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And he hadn't had much time to recruit. He's only had 1 class as recruiting cord and 1 as HC and it wasn't even permanent until 2 mo before recruits even knew he would get the job.

Dylan Moses, Chris Allen, Marvin Wilson, Isiah Buggs. That's 2 5* LB, a 5* DL, and the #2 ranked JUCO player in the country. All guys O has been on for 2+ years, and the 2 LB were either committed publicly or silently to LSU while Miles was coach. Once Miles was fired, they decommitted, and neither thought enough of Orgeron has the HC to come back to LSU. They knew him, he wasn't some outsider.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25450 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:47 pm to
I blame ponamasky.
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:51 pm to
Good god
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:51 pm to
And you are the classic high school loser
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:53 pm to
Bull fkn shite liar.
Posted by SeekGreatness
Member since Nov 2015
3489 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

And you are the classic high school loser


Really thoughtful 7th grade girl response. How are you not banned?
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:56 pm to
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"The Binder" has become a punchline on here, but the sad reality is that's why Orgeron is here today.
Don't be ridiculous. The binder was just what got his foot in the door. It was the gumbo recipe that closed the deal.
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6925 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:05 pm to
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Bull fkn shite liar.

Eloquent response. Care to elaborate? Did we sign one or more of those 4 kids that I'm not aware of?
Posted by SeekGreatness
Member since Nov 2015
3489 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:07 pm to
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Dawgfan128


Registered on 9/6/17
572 posts


Troll. How much is Ponamsky paying you again?
It must be a certain amount per post.
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
1787 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:26 pm to
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This is the result of hiring someone on what they promise, not what they have done


I frequently hire people based upon promise ...almost always turns out to be the right decision. Good managers understand potential and are not blinded by experience.
Posted by GeauxLSUBengalTigers
Member since Sep 2016
423 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

"The Binder" has become a punchline on here, but the sad reality is that's why Orgeron is here today. He sat in the office and sold Alleva a bill of goods. He painted a picture of "stealing" away Kiffen from Saban and bringing along Tua Tagovailoa with him. He spoke of landing a whole bus load of 5* kids, and the top ranked BR kids he would keep home. And he name dropped other assistants he would have here in a flash if he got the job.

Fast forward 8 months and almost done of what he promised has actually happened yet. Maybe he turns the corner this week and beyond, and in a few years we all look back and laugh at this bumpy start. But the real culprit here is, as usual, Alleva. I don't blame Oregon or Ponamsky, or whoever else for stumping for the job and selling themselves. That's what they should do. But a competent AD should be able to see through that and hire based on verifiable facts, not pipe dreams
Bitch, he's done everything he has promised. There is no guarantee.
Posted by tigerfan92
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
492 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:03 pm to
That's the problem with getting rid of a proven winner. Multiple SEC titles National Chsmps coach with most wins ever at LSU and it was never good enough
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:18 pm to
It's the result of LSU waiting too long to fire Miles. Come on let's be honest for a change.
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 1:25 am to
Not uncommon during a transition year. Losing wilson and Biggs hurt a lot. But landing lbers we have offset Moses Allen. We were lucky to hold onto the qbs along with closing pretty damn strong.
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