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re: They've released the list of names of the Thorpe award semi-finalists.

Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by jdg91878
Do overs+Opinion poll politics =MNC
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:13 pm to
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quote: Mark Barron, Alabama

This dude is really not that good.


How is Brandon Taylor not on this list if Barron made it. The Bama bias in full effect.
This post was edited on 10/31/11 at 12:14 pm
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:20 pm to
Checked out the Thorpe Award site and saw this
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The Jim Thorpe Award for the best defensive back in college football was created in 1986. It was conceived by former Oklahoma City talk show host Ed Sossen and W. Lynne Draper, the Jim Thorpe Association Executive Director, as a way to do something positive to promote Oklahoma. The award was immediately accepted as one of the nation’s top collegiate sports honors. Winners are judged on their performance on the field, athletic ability and character.

A pre-season “watch list” is determined by an analysis of All-American teams listed in various pre-season college football publications. A “Screening Committee” of Jim Thorpe Association members follows and researches the performance of these and other players and then meets on the first Monday in November to narrow the field to 10 or 12 semi-finalists. This committee will meet again on the Monday before Thanksgiving to select the three finalists. The names of these finalists are submitted to a national panel of over 50 sports writers, sportscasters, former players and coaches who vote to determine the winner.


LINK /
This post was edited on 10/31/11 at 12:22 pm
Posted by houstontiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:21 pm to
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I've always contended that Claiborne is a better defensive player than TM7. Now, my opinion has been validated.


Mo might have better talent and better pro career but right now in the college game there is not one defensive player more valuable than Mathieu.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
11559 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:25 pm to
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Mo might have better talent and better pro career but right now in the college game there is not one defensive player more valuable than Mathieu.
How valuable is he, really? We just had our best defensive performance of the year without him.
Posted by Chinese Bandit
Edmond, Ok
Member since Jan 2004
1546 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:33 pm to
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wow...makes no sense for him not to be on the list, unless there is some criteria about being suspended.


I work with one of the highest committee members of the Thorpe Award....Mathieu was their number 1 before the suspension....the suspension knocked him out of contention because of the allegations. The committee was excited to because they were going to hype up the #7 from LSU thing with PP winning it last year.

On a side note I got real good seats to the banquet last year and got PP to sign the helmet I keep in my office
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
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Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:37 pm to
guess that explains it.
Posted by Bwana Whiskey
Member since Dec 2008
6777 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:43 pm to
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I'm surprised Menzie is not on that list.


he's had about 5 passes thrown his way this year. and one went for a pick 6 against Arky
Posted by mikelsu15
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 10/31/11 at 12:52 pm to
Congrats to Claiborne!! The only thing surprising about TM7 not being on the list is that people are surprised.
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 1:19 pm to
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2 players from Oklahoma St. over Mathieu. OSU has the 111th ranked D in the nation


more of the sports media not wanting the viewers in the non SEC football areas of the country to quite watching. Gotta give the allusion of hope for ratings sake and make those other fans feel like this season is still relevent towards post season play.
Posted by tigarida
West Palm Beach
Member since Oct 2009
136 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 2:43 pm to
check the Synthetic Thorpe list........
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/31/11 at 2:51 pm to
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To be honest, I don't think he cares


Seriously? If I had a season like what TM7 is having and fricked it away because of dumb decisions off the field I would have cared. Guy had a great chance to receive some awards as sophomore, but fricked it away. The one positive of this ordeal is that he has another chance next year to bring home some trophies. Knowing that, I think that will motivate him too!
Posted by geauxgeebs
Member since Oct 2011
230 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 2:59 pm to
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Congrats to Claiborne!! The only thing surprising about TM7 not being on the list is that people are surprised.


I agree. He's a great player, but there are some things that he needs to work on. You can't only look at the highlights. He's only 19. He's amazing for his age, but he's not a "lockdown" cornerback, yet. I said earlier that if I'm Bama i'll take a mismatch versus a linebacker or go inside on TM7 before throwing a longer pass to one of the WRs on the parameter.
Posted by LSUTigerfaninHtown
President of the OT as of 5/26/11
Member since Nov 2008
24252 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 3:02 pm to
Ridiculous, unless there is some rule about suspensions. He's the best defensive playmaker in the country. However, like many have said, this is just more motivation for him.

ETA: After reading more of the thread, it seems that his suspension is the reason. So, it's understandable.
This post was edited on 10/31/11 at 3:03 pm
Posted by geauxgeebs
Member since Oct 2011
230 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 3:03 pm to
I think he's amazing. Im just having flashbacks from him getting dragged for 16 yards during his last performance. I hope he gets a pick 6 against Bama.
Posted by tigerwoods
Hillman
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/31/11 at 3:03 pm to
That list implies that those guys are better at their position than Mathieu and that is laughable.
Posted by LSUNO
the NO
Member since Jan 2007
866 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 3:56 pm to
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Mathieu was their number 1 before the suspension


What suspension?

The kid f'ed up, but the media/internet burned him hard. Ryan Baker's "planned lack of playing" went unnoticed until he didn't play in the NWSU game.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
70968 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 5:49 pm to
really wasn't it an in-house suspension, not a NCAA suspension?

LSU should find out whoever linked the drug test info and suspension to the Reville and post his info on here or 4chan.. LSU could have kept this whole thing hidden.

This post was edited on 10/31/11 at 5:50 pm
Posted by DEANintheYAY
LEFT COAST
Member since Jan 2008
31975 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 5:54 pm to
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This dude is really not that good.



He isn't and I hope that we challenge him and exploit him for the fraud that he is.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23289 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:08 pm to
I think Claiborne and Simon are better cover corners.

Mathieu is just awesome as the nickle.

Our problem for the Bama game is he is a smaller guy and will probably only be lined up at CB. I can't see us playing a smaller lineup with Mathieu with us dealing with Bama's run game. This sucks because Simon probably won't play as much.

Ex- I don't think Simon has as much of a problem with Rodgers as Mathieu did in the UT game.
Posted by DEANintheYAY
LEFT COAST
Member since Jan 2008
31975 posts
Posted on 10/31/11 at 6:18 pm to
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Our problem for the Bama game is he is a smaller guy and will probably only be lined up at CB. I can't see us playing a smaller lineup with Mathieu with us dealing with Bama's run game. This sucks because Simon probably won't play as much.



I think that we will be surprised. Truthfully, I would rather have TM7 in the right place to make a play than a bigger player that ends up out of position.
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