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re: The two best team argument BCSCG
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:19 am to biglego
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:19 am to biglego
I can say 1 thing for sure. An 8 team playoff this year would have been +1000 times better than watching these garbage BCS bowl matchups.
I agree the SEC CG was the defacto NC game. UGA would have creamed ND too.
I agree the SEC CG was the defacto NC game. UGA would have creamed ND too.
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:24 am to MoreOrLes
quote:This is crap. There never has and there never will be a case where 8 teams deserve a real shot at a national title. This isn't basketball.
Face it...all BCS Champions are BS. Nothing has or will ever be legitimate until it's settled on the field. 8 team playoff
FWIW.
quote:Once again, this isn't the NCAA's. CFB has always been different because it is supposed to be the best team in the country. Not the best team at the end of the year.
A&m would have beat the gumps again if they would have a rematch. Even LSU might have won in a rematch .....yeah i said it.
By your standard, Baylor and Ole Miss should get shots also.
The BCS has done exactly what it set out to do and that is match the best two teams against each other and bypass bowl tie ins.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Hard to argue that they weren't the best team after running the gauntlet.
Sometimes the best team at the end of the year wasn't the best team at the beginning. I like this aspect of a playoff.
Exactly. Further more anyone who makes the argument that the BCS is just as good at picking a champion is a fool.
Champions are picked on the field.
Every school no matter whom they are or how much they pay their coaches deserves a shot.
Further, to accept this BCS product is insulting. Each teams season is over when they cannot make the MNC.......even of that occurs in the middle of the season. By that type of reasoning LSU should not have attended the chicken bowl at all.
Sorry folks all MNC's are illegitimate and do not prove whom the best team is until there is an 8 team playoff. That's just a fact
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 8:31 am
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:37 am to alajones
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The BCS has done exactly what it set out to do and that is match the best two teams against each other and bypass bowl tie ins.
Please go to BCS.org and read and show us all where it says that. You can't because it does not.
What it does say is that teams are rewarded with bowls because of their regular season. Yet last year it matched 2 teams one of which beat the other at home just a month before. It is about popularity not who is playing the best.
And football is not a popularity contest.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:39 am to MoreOrLes
SEC championships could be more difficult to win than NC.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:45 am to MoreOrLes
I watched Notre Dame once or twice this season, and they didn't pass my "eye test". They shouldn't have been in the BCSNG. In fact, I think Vegas would have had Notre Dame underdogs to about 6 teams around the country if they would have met on a neutral field. So they didn't pass the "eye test" with others either.
So how did Bama's "eye test" in 2011 get them in the big game while the "eye test" was ignored to allow Notre Dame in the game in 2012?
So how did Bama's "eye test" in 2011 get them in the big game while the "eye test" was ignored to allow Notre Dame in the game in 2012?
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:48 am to Aintsaloser
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LSU beat bama this year.
the refs stole it for Alabama.
Alabama 1 penalty the whole game
LSU 7 penalties
so Alabama should be down 2 games and
no championship.
Are SEC refs corrupt? Debatable.
Did the refs screw LSU for Bama in 2012? No.
Besides, a 7-1 penalty differencial against Bama is the best you can hope for. Be thankful 10-15 weren't called on LSU.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 8:48 am to la_birdman
quote:
Even though I think ND was overrated, they were undefeated. Bama won the SEC, this year, so they deserved to be there, as much as I hate to say it.
Last year, different story.
I'll never understand this argument. If ANYTHING, after watching the game last year, if there was a team that shouldn't have been on the field it was obviously LSU.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:06 am to theunknownknight
Damn you're full of suck.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:13 am to theunknownknight
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I'll never understand this argument. If ANYTHING, after watching the game last year, if there was a team that shouldn't have been on the field it was obviously LSU
Do you know anything about the history of rematches in bowl games? The team that lost the first game wins about 80% of the bowl rematches.
Alabama, a team that did not even with their own division, should not have gotten into the national championship game over a team that won the second best conference and finished with the same record as Alabama.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:19 am to theunknownknight
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I'll never understand this argument. If ANYTHING, after watching the game last year, if there was a team that shouldn't have been on the field it was obviously LSU.
I agree, you can never say the winner of the game didn't belong in the game. I had that very conversation with USC fans after 2003. They claimed LSU didn't deserve to be in the game and I told them that since LSU actually won the game, it was OU that didn't deserve to be there - so go bitch to the sooners.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:20 am to la_birdman
Here's how our luck goes.
Pretty simple.
LSU last yr had to play Alabama again.
The only team that could challenge us... We lost.
2007 luck was on our side.
Alabama, losers of one(two yrs in a row) gets ND.
A team that barely but Pitt, who lost to ole miss.
LSU, A&m, Uga, Fla all are favored over Irish.
Alabama is a damn good football team,....luck however is and has been on there side.
That's truth.
Maybe this playoff system will help.
Pretty simple.
LSU last yr had to play Alabama again.
The only team that could challenge us... We lost.
2007 luck was on our side.
Alabama, losers of one(two yrs in a row) gets ND.
A team that barely but Pitt, who lost to ole miss.
LSU, A&m, Uga, Fla all are favored over Irish.
Alabama is a damn good football team,....luck however is and has been on there side.
That's truth.
Maybe this playoff system will help.
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 9:24 am
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:23 am to Choupique19
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Do you know anything about the history of rematches in bowl games? The team that lost the first game wins about 80% of the bowl rematches.
I guess LSU should have just caved to Georgia in 2003 in that second game then. They didn't though. I wonder why? Oh yeah, Saban was the coach.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:32 am to MoreOrLes
Answer this.
Before the BCS NC game last year, who thought LSU and Bama were the two best, ignoring records?
This year, who thought Bama and Oregon were the best two, ignoring records?
The BCS is no better than the shitfest before this. If a team is undefeated, they are automatically the best, no matter who they played or how shitty they got by in their wins.
Oklahoma was a fraud and so was USC. Stanford almost lost to a 5 loss Wisconsin team. They got lucky and got a call at Oregon that they did not get that same call at Notre Dame.
Should have been Oregon vs Bama, not ND, but because they are ND and were undefeated, they got the nod and got smashed. Like no one saw that coming.
Before the BCS NC game last year, who thought LSU and Bama were the two best, ignoring records?
This year, who thought Bama and Oregon were the best two, ignoring records?
The BCS is no better than the shitfest before this. If a team is undefeated, they are automatically the best, no matter who they played or how shitty they got by in their wins.
Oklahoma was a fraud and so was USC. Stanford almost lost to a 5 loss Wisconsin team. They got lucky and got a call at Oregon that they did not get that same call at Notre Dame.
Should have been Oregon vs Bama, not ND, but because they are ND and were undefeated, they got the nod and got smashed. Like no one saw that coming.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 9:33 am to MoreOrLes
100% agree.
That's why last year angered me so much. ESPN changed the narrative to fit their agenda and get Bama in the bowl game.
That's why last year angered me so much. ESPN changed the narrative to fit their agenda and get Bama in the bowl game.
Posted on 1/8/13 at 11:42 am to Brettesaurus Rex
College Football is in trouble in 2 respects IMO.
1). The illegitimate way it decides its champion.
2). Lawyers and the concussion issue.
Both may lead to serious ratings drops in the future or at least very sporadic.
1). The illegitimate way it decides its champion.
2). Lawyers and the concussion issue.
Both may lead to serious ratings drops in the future or at least very sporadic.
This post was edited on 1/8/13 at 11:43 am
Posted on 1/8/13 at 4:03 pm to USMCTiger03
The top 6 teams in the SEC would have beat N. D. Last night. Any body in there right minds would ,ve known that before last night. Hyped up team by media and past boosters all over the country that were hoping and praying Notre Dame was back but never played an opponent worthy enough to prove them wrong till last night. Except for Stanford that jipped. burns my arse!
Posted on 1/8/13 at 4:11 pm to USMCTiger03
The top 6 teams in the SEC would have beat N. D. Last night. Any body in there right minds would ,ve known that before last night. Hyped up team by media and past boosters all over the country that were hoping and praying Notre Dame was back but never played an opponent worthy enough to prove them wrong till last night. Except for Stanford that jipped. burns my arse!
Posted on 1/8/13 at 4:13 pm to MoreOrLes
Its not about who is better. If an team starts out 0-4 because of 22 injuries or suspensions and then looks like an NFL team the last 8 - tough shite.
It is about the 2 teams that earn it. I never thought that Notre Dame was very good but they went undefeated with (believe it or not) a respectable schedule.
It isn't the 2 "best" teams, but the 2 most "deserving".
It is about the 2 teams that earn it. I never thought that Notre Dame was very good but they went undefeated with (believe it or not) a respectable schedule.
It isn't the 2 "best" teams, but the 2 most "deserving".
Posted on 1/8/13 at 4:25 pm to MoreOrLes
quote:
College Football is in trouble in 2 respects IMO.
1). The illegitimate way it decides its champion.
2). Lawyers and the concussion issue.
Both may lead to serious ratings drops in the future or at least very sporadic.
College football is the 3rd most popular sport in the country and is on it's way to knocking baseball off for the number 2 spot. You're ludicrously out of touch if you think CFB has a ratings problem due to the BCS.
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