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re: The reason JL is getting talked about as QB is simple

Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:58 pm to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:58 pm to
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Stafford was


Stafford was a terrible QB at georgia

made really dumb mistakes all the time
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:59 pm to
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Where did JJ rank against other starting SEC QBs last yr?
Top half.

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And how many yds separated him from the next closest QB?
Wait. . .you are asking yards? Kind of a crappy measuring stick for a QB, isn't it?
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:59 pm to
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the season is 6 months away
Yep. I don't put a lot of stock into the spring game, but with all this JJ v. JL v. CG bullshite, people need to understand the real issue. Gary one-season-wonder Crowton and his OL genius Les best-ol-ever Miles.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:59 pm to
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Last place? Yea, that is what happens when you have the worst offensive line in the SEC by far.

We also had the second worst rushing game in the SEC with two senior RBs with NFL talent. What does that tell you? When a OL is blocking that poorly for two senior RBs heading to the NFL, how is it that you feel its right to judge JJ as absolutely not being a SEC QB while playing behind such an OL? Have some sense.

If JL can ever get a better feel for defenders, especially in the flats, he can be an excellent QB. See that is a balance statement about an LSU QB. Maybe you idiots could try making that sort of debate instead of "JJ has no tools" or "JJ isn't a SEC QB."


you sir are coming with the MONEY posts tonight
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:00 pm to
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Wait. . .you are asking yards? Kind of a crappy measuring stick for a QB, isn't it?


msutiger, TIGRLEE, and robbobbo constantly change the rules of what an "SEC qb" is.

pretty funny
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:01 pm to
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When a OL is blocking that poorly for two senior RBs heading to the NFL,


Based on total rushing yards. Which isn't shocking when your obscenely high sack yardage is subtracted from that.

Charles Scott averaged 4.7 ypc
Keiland averaged 5.3 ypc

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Stafford was a terrible QB at georgia

made really dumb mistakes all the time



Terrible enough to get drafted #1 overall..
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:01 pm to
The running game, 100% of all sacks, defense tanking at the end of the season, Obamacare, hangnails. . .

all Jefferson's fault.
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:02 pm to
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Last place? Yea, that is what happens when you have the worst offensive line in the SEC by far.

The OLine/run game was money in the Spring game.

How did JJ do with that?
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:02 pm to
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Gary one-season-wonder Crowton and his OL genius Les best-ol-ever Miles.


I'm not one to take up for Crowton, but besides Lee throwing the pick 6s, the '08 offense wasn't that bad.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:02 pm to
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msutiger, TIGRLEE, and robbobbo constantly change the rules of what an "SEC qb" is.
A lot of it is dependent on melatonin.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:04 pm to
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all Jefferson's fault.


the problem is you and TheNurse want to blame all of 08 on Lee and none of 09 on JJ...basically the Lee-bots in reverse.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:04 pm to
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Terrible enough to get drafted #1 overall..


oh that's funny

make the same remark about jamarcus
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:04 pm to
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I'm not one to take up for Crowton, but besides Lee throwing the pick 6s, the '08 offense wasn't that bad.
Yes, besides the pick 6s. Luckily the '08 defense was lights out.
Posted by infantry1026
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:04 pm to
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I hope these great kids do well. But from a football standpoint it is not so much how poorly they played or didn't play in the spring game. It is the fact that neither one has ever really play well or had a great game. They have been good at times, bad at times, but average most of the time.


This! I like both kids, JJ seems like a very good kid(although he doesn't seem like a leader). Lee showed a lot of character by staying at LSU, and had an excellent spring(although in the past has had shakey confidence)

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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:04 pm to
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How did JJ do with that?

How was his pass blocking?
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:04 pm to
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A lot of it is dependent on melatonin.


Posted by bmy
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:05 pm to
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oh that's funny

make the same remark about jamarcus


I thought Jamarcus was great in college.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:06 pm to
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Yes, besides the pick 6s. Luckily the '08 defense was lights out


one could make the argument that Lee could've been protected better as a RS-FR if the defense had been a little more reliable...
Posted by ottothewise
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:06 pm to
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He's simply the alternative.


and what does Barrett Bailey look like?

And will Zach Lee go pro baseball or step in and save the day?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 10:06 pm to
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the problem is you and TheNurse want to blame all of 08 on Lee and none of 09 on JJ...basically the Lee-bots in reverse.
I don't blame all of 08 on Lee, but the kid loses games.

JJ just falls short on winning some of them, he doesn't lose them.

The only game I would blame JJ for was PSU.
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