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re: The reason JL is getting talked about as QB is simple
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:00 pm to JLSU20
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:00 pm to JLSU20
quote:Exactly.
It is the fact that neither one has ever really play well or had a great game. They have been good at times, bad at times, but average most of the time.
As an LSU fan, you don't need to be in a camp for a certain QB, but Jesus H Christ someone should develop sometime.
This will be 4 seasons under Crowton for JL and 3 for JJ. WTF?
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:01 pm to drizztiger
Hey there is fact to the play calling, game management not being close to great. That is on the coaches. The thing that gets me though, is Matt Flynn seemed to excel with these guys, and he started less games than both of these guys. I know he was a senior.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:02 pm to ForeLSU
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2) The backup QB is always better
bullshite, not in this case, for over a year all we have heard of JL was when was he going to transfer and no one gave a damn. The kid is still here and fighting for a starting spot.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:03 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:bullshite. Inherited QB for sure, but Flynn had less game time experience than either Lee or JJ for the 2009 season.
2007, experinced qb
quote:And why has be gotten fired are asked to leave 80% of those positions? And why did those offenses improve each and every time he was replaced?
wonder why he has been in pros and why he is now at LSU? somebody much more important and knowledgable than you disagrees
quote:No, the lack of offensive coaching and continuity is the program. And it's a big one. Even Jimbo Fisher could start a FS SO or FS FR and not finish 110th in total offense.
Hate to break it to you.... but playing qbs before they are ready to play is the root of the problem.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:04 pm to ShortyRob
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ShortyRob
:standingovation:
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:04 pm to drizztiger
could we agree that 2010 is put or shut up time for CG?
and fwiw concering MF.. sometimes exp is more than just snaps.
and fwiw concering MF.. sometimes exp is more than just snaps.
This post was edited on 3/29/10 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:06 pm to JLSU20
quote:I'm not looking up stats, but Flynn threw 21 TDs and 11 Ints in 2007. Far from great.
Matt Flynn seemed to excel with these guys
Yes, the offense rolled for the most part. That's is Crowton's MO. Since then downhill.
Same thing with Chicago Bears, BYU, Oregon and now LSU. The dude is a one hit wonder. There is no argument except which QB gets the blame.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:08 pm to drizztiger
Can't argue with you on that. The fact is the product being put on the field tells no lies.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:08 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:Crowton and Miles. Crowton should have been fired last season. Miles put his eggs in the Crowton basket.
could we agree that 2010 is put or shut up time for CG?
If I am wrong about Crowton (and I mean 2-3 years of consistently good offenses, then I will READILY apologize), but he hasn't done that in 20 years so no reason the think he ever will.
quote:I do agree with this.
and fwiw concering MF.. sometimes exp is more than just snaps.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:10 pm to drizztiger
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Same thing with Chicago Bears, BYU, Oregon and now LSU. The dude is a one hit wonder. There is no argument except which QB gets the blame.
That pretty much sums it up. Coaching for your job seems to light a fire under peoples asses though, so I'm interested to see how we roll this year.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:11 pm to Roaad
quote:
The backup QB is always better
+1
These cats are just in denial. . .
Actually, that was my point. ANY backup QB would be getting the "hope" of fans if the primary QB is JJ.
Truth is, I don't think people have confidence in JL. They simply hope and pray he's figured out how to use his gifts(he does throw well) because they see JJ has few gifts.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:12 pm to drizztiger
and fwiw concering MF.. sometimes exp is more than just snaps.
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I do agree with this.
Understand what you guys are saying. I also think Talent,ability,mental edge, leadership are either there or they are not. the hype and recruiting stars don't always tell the story when the lights come on. Moxy...Mauck, Flynn, Tyler, Davey, Hodson, they all had it.
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I do agree with this.
Understand what you guys are saying. I also think Talent,ability,mental edge, leadership are either there or they are not. the hype and recruiting stars don't always tell the story when the lights come on. Moxy...Mauck, Flynn, Tyler, Davey, Hodson, they all had it.
This post was edited on 3/29/10 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:17 pm to ShortyRob
quote:I don't have a horse in this race. I want the best player to step up and do his best.
They simply hope and pray he's figured out how to use his gifts(he does throw well) because they see JJ has few gifts.
My worry is that NO ONE can step up, not because they don't have the ability, but because they aren't getting the correct teaching.
Like I said, 4 years for JL now and 3 for JJ all under Crowton. If that isn't enough time for one of them to "get it" then either we recruiting terrible QBs (which is on the coaches) or we are clueless at developing them.
This year will tell us everything we need to know.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:18 pm to drizztiger
quote:
This year will tell us everything we need to know.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:18 pm to drizztiger
Honestly I thought GC should have been shown the door.No excuse for having the 107th ranked offense in the country no matter who the QB.At the same time IMO neither JJ or JL are SEC caliber QB's.Hopefully CG will prove to be the answer.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:21 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:
wonder why he has been in pros and why he is now at LSU? somebody much more important and knowledgable than you disagrees
and he also called option plays with jarrett lee to charles scott
so forgive me if I question crowtons sanity
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:22 pm to TheDoc
To the short side of the field
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:28 pm to TheDoc
Why in the hell would you consistently run a 240lb.powerback out of the shotgun formation when you have TH and RS sitting on the sideline.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:31 pm to FightinTiga
I concur
Posted on 3/29/10 at 9:35 pm to FightinTiga
Crowton makes some crazy calls a lot of times, but to his defense I think Les reins him in more than people think, Les is that Bo Schembelcer type, whateva his last name is, and likes to play that smash mouth football, I think Crowton would love to open it up, wide open, but can't.
That's just the way it is, he works for the boss.
That's just the way it is, he works for the boss.
This post was edited on 3/29/10 at 9:36 pm
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