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re: The reason behind the anti-Bama sentiment
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:08 pm to ole yeller
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:08 pm to ole yeller
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RTS, you must be a closet bama fan, or outright one. You have been on LSU's rant steady for the last 48 hrs arguing why they should get a do-over, when the rest of the nation just gets to sit on the sideline
Pure ignorance.
So you believe that my opinion that beating Bama on Nov. 5th and then winning the SEC championship (pending Sat.) means i am a closet Bama fan????
Bama is the second best team in the country. Does this make me a closet Bama fan too?? I have stated many times that I don't care who the competition is in the NCG, I just don't exclude Bama from the mix. Ignorant people will always draw wrong conclusions regardless of the content though.
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Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:09 pm to molsusports
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Yes, I think LSU and Alabama are dominant but both should be tested by quality teams out of conference after the conference has been settled. This isn't a 4 or 8 team playoff
I don't see it, not without a playoff. Not OSU or VT. I don't think either would be much competition for LSU or Bama. In fact, I think Arkansas is as good or better than both.
Do you think even with some kind of playoff people wouldn't be complaining about playing Bama again? I am positive they would.
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:10 pm to molsusports
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Yes, I think LSU and Alabama are dominant but both should be tested by quality teams out of conference after the conference has been settled.
Completely agree. The Big 12 should go nuts if their 1-loss champion is locked out in favor of an also-ran in the SEC.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:14 pm to uway
I believe this is going to be the final straw that brings us to a playoff. The ACC/B12/B10 and everyone are going to be pissed with an All-SEC Championship where they're teams were not given a chance.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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RogerTheShrubber
You might be the only person I know who cares more about the SEC title than the BCS title. Your arguments makes sense in light of your view, but perplexes most of us who care more about the national title.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:15 pm to lake chuck fan
Great points and I completely agree. I also just keep going back to the fact that the only people in this world that want a rematch are losers. Bama is the loser, so they are crying for a rematch.
the way they're saying "bring on lsu!" as if they haven't even played yet is pathetic.
the way they're saying "bring on lsu!" as if they haven't even played yet is pathetic.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:18 pm to biglego
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You might be the only person I know who cares more about the SEC title than the BCS title. Your arguments makes sense in light of your view, but perplexes most of us who care more about the national title.
I don't, really. I think the SEC title is extremely important though and believe people are overlooking it. Saying the win over Bama was for naught, is incorrect.
The NC can be disputed (as it may be this year, pending certain developments) but you can't dispute the SEC title. Is it as important? Don't know but it is being overlooked IMO.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:18 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
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Ghostfacedistiller
The OP is well stated.
I will admit two things, though. One, I do fear Bama much more than anyone else. Two, I do not believe the death of anyone on the women's basketball staff would affect the football team in any way.
That said, OkieSt's body of work, assuming they beat OK, should propel them past Bama just as LSU's did in 2007 to the exclusion of USC or Georgia.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:19 pm to Ghostfacedistiller
quote:Then that's an IDIOTIC assumption.
There is the assumption that a rematch would not be granted the other way around.
It disregards everything said about an LSU loss contingency prior to the Nov 5th game.
Dumb stuff!
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yes, I think LSU and Alabama are dominant but both should be tested by quality teams out of conference after the conference has been settled. This isn't a 4 or 8 team playoff
I don't see it, not without a playoff. Not OSU or VT.
No one gave Florida any sort of shot in 2006 and Michigan was favored over Southern California
We do this all the time - we fall in love with our impressions of a team instead of just realizing we don't know as much as we think we do
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Do you think even with some kind of playoff people wouldn't be complaining about playing Bama again? I am positive they would.
If there were any type of playoff almost every year the top two SEC teams would have a chance of playing two or even three times per year
In that situation it would be normal. It is just different when only two teams can be given a shot. This year (like 2006) the whole thing has degenerated into a bunch of people who don't really know insisting they are absolutely certain who the top two teams in the country are when at least teh #2 should be open for substantial debate.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:26 pm to molsusports
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No one gave Florida any sort of shot in 2006 and Michigan was favored over Southern California
In a single game championship, anything is possible. The odds would be very much against these two teams though. Neither is the caliber of LSU/Bama.
The only answer to satisfy people would be a playoff, but I suspect people would still complain even then.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
The playoff would at least allow teams like VaTech/Osu a chance.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:30 pm to NC_Tigah
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It disregards everything said about an LSU loss contingency prior to the Nov 5th game.
That's all conjecture, just as this is and the majority of any says on a message board. If you disagree, fine.
IMO it's a source of frustration for LSU based on the past. Michigan was the road team on 06 also and they lost.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:31 pm to CajunFootball
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The playoff would at least allow teams like VaTech/Osu a chance.
It would allow teams who struggled early and improved a better chance at the championship. I am 100% for a playoff but it will not satisfy everyone.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:32 pm to CapstoneGrad04
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I can't seem to remember - who did OkSt lose to?
Who did bama beat? Arkansas.
In the real world it's not "who failed the least", it's "who excelled the most".
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:34 pm to rutiger
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maybe, maybe not. IMO, the caliber of the loss carries more weight.
Typical Gump reasoning. One turd is more impressive than another.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I think the SEC title is extremely important though and believe people are overlooking it. Saying the win over Bama was for naught, is incorrect.
Agreed.
By the way, in response to the other issue, I firmly believe had the score been 9-6 in favor of the Tide in Tuscaloosa and the rest of the season was the same, LSU would be in the same position as 'Bama as far as a rematch is concerned. There is not quite the LSU hate and the 'Bama love that some people think. I know a lot of posters don't agree.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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it would allow teams who struggled early and improved a better chance at the championship. I am 100% for a playoff but it will not satisfy everyone.
That's the whole thing. Bama is basically being given a do over, much like a playoff system would allow. It just that this is not a playoff system. They are having their cake and eating it too.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 2:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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No one gave Florida any sort of shot in 2006 and Michigan was favored over Southern California
In a single game championship, anything is possible. The odds would be very much against these two teams though. Neither is the caliber of LSU/Bama.
We don't know this
OU looked like an all time great team for the first 12 games of 2003
tOSU looked untouchable in 2006
And yet OU got thumped by KSU and tOSU got taken to the woodshed by a Florida team that had more close calls than a hooker working Bourbon Street
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