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re: The real issue with Miles and QB position

Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:28 pm to
[quote]What is clearly apparent is that many LSU fans, myself included, aren't confident that there will be a fair QB battle between AJ and BH.

All of you are blithering idiots.



Rather most believe AJ will start no matter what happens. This is not totally unfounded as we saw this played out before between JJ and JL.

Yes, actually it is totally unfounded.


If Miles starts AJ most fans will still believe BH is the better QB which means Miles credibility is virtually zero.

It is only zero with the dumbass faction and guess what. Nobody gives a damn what any of you think.



This really needs to be addressed by Miles but I really don't think he cares to do so.

No, it doesn't because there is nothing to address. What you and the rest of the idiots think means less than zero to everyone but yourselves.




The end result is fan morale continues to decline which is not good for the program.

Nobody cares about the morale of a very few malcontent assholes that only have voice on a message board.


I wish Miles would realize this and clearly demonstrate that whoever starts is the best QB.

Whoever starts has demonstrated themselves to be the best qb by everything the coaches see on the field. Again, nobody gives a rats arse what people like you think. Got it?
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:30 pm to
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I'll be watching most of the games this fall from my couch.


Good, let your tickets go so a real fan can get them.
Posted by Football_Freak
Member since May 2012
2410 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:32 pm to
He is not a humble man when it comes to HIS offensive philosophy. it is HIS team and HE will not succumb to any other opinion. In fact, the more the fan base, and people like Marcus Spears and Terry Bradshaw, call for his to play Harris, the more HE will dig HIS heels in for HIS preferred QB. That QB can be horrible, and it will not matter, because Miles' EGO will not give in. We've seen this movie many times. Harris will have to be orders of magnitude better than Jennings to play, and with the practices geared the way they are, that is unlikely to happen. You can ignore this clear trend because you don't want to be "negative", but that does not make you right. Hope for Harris to dominate, while expecting to see Jennings get way more chances than he deserves.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7160 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

That QB can be horrible, and it will not matter, because Miles' EGO will not give in. We've seen this movie many times.
Name ONE time.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:51 pm to
It's laughable that posters think Miles starts qb for any other reason than Mes thinks that qb gives lsu it's best shite to win. Miles doesn't start a lesser qb because he has a favorite. The man's job is on the line and you think he doesn't give a better qb the job? I hate our ignorant fans.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 12:56 pm to
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Jennings is the new Jefferson


So what you're saying is Jennings will be one of the most productive qbs in lsu history?
If AJ can reach JJ as far as stats lsu will be a great team.
Posters can say what they want but JJ started just over 2 years worth of games and is top 5 in passing tds, top 6 in compl%,top 5 in total tds, top 5 in total tds and his 09 season ranks as the 9th best passing season in lsu history.
NONE OF THE ABOVE STATEMENTS ARE MY OPINIONS. THEY ARE FACTS.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

The thing that's been there the whole time with our qb problems 


This is such a false myth. We had decent qb play in 2006,07,09 2011,&2013. In no way is that alltime.
Posted by Mountainhead
Member since Jun 2015
198 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:04 pm to
But you still can't get yourself out of that singlewide, after all this time?

We should all be as smart as you
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:05 pm to
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That QB can be horrible, and it will not matter, because Miles' EGO will not give in. We've seen this movie many times.
Name ONE time.


JJ, i.e., you.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

That being said, I also don't understand what the hell happened in the National Championship Game.


Our oline got absolutely man handled. We got no push in the run game and JJ was running for his life. JJ also refused to test down the field. He did complete 65% of his passes but none were down field.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

So what you're saying is Jennings will be one of the most productive qbs in lsu history?
If AJ can reach JJ as far as stats lsu will be a great team.


lolz. Whats funny is AJ keeps starting and plays at his current abysmal level...he will pass JJ.

Think about that.
Posted by winnoworelse
Good Ole Louisiana Bayou
Member since Jun 2004
2769 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:16 pm to
The "REAL ISSUE" with Les Miles and the QB position is that he doesn't know how to RECRUIT A REAL QB!!
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:16 pm to
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He is not a humble man when it comes to HIS offensive philosophy. it is HIS team and HE will not succumb to any other opinion. In fact, the more the fan base, and people like Marcus Spears and Terry Bradshaw, call for his to play Harris, the more HE will dig HIS heels in for HIS preferred QB. That QB can be horrible, and it will not matter, because Miles' EGO will not give in. We've seen this movie many times. Harris will have to be orders of magnitude better than Jennings to play, and with the practices geared the way they are, that is unlikely to happen. You can ignore this clear trend because you don't want to be "negative", but that does not make you right. Hope for Harris to dominate, while expecting to see Jennings get way more chances than he deserves.


Congrats...you just described every successful football coach in the history of football.

Or is it your belief that coaches ought to be licking their fingers and asking fans what they think ought to happen on the field? Maybe a real time poll that LSU can advertise during games where we could all vote using our phones?

Christ...people can disagree with his choices, but to pretend that Miles is some kind of fricking anomaly because he doesn't take fan emotions into his decision making process is not a negative...just as it's not a negative for all other successful coaches who's opinion it is that everyone outside of their football office can get fricking bent when it comes to what happens with their team.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:19 pm to
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Name ONE time


You know there are lsu posters that think in 2011 Miles started JJ over Joe Montana.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

"REAL ISSUE" with Les Miles and the QB position is that he doesn't know how to RECRUIT A REAL QB


He recruited Mett. Or are you under the assumption Mett was forced to go to LSU. We've also been very unlucky with qb recruiting. RP was the #1 qb and was supposed to be the bridge between Flynn and JLee/JJ. Zach Lee was a top 5 qb that chose baseball at the last minute and Gunner Kiel left at the last minute too. JLEE,JJ,BH and AJ were all decent qb recruits
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:26 pm to
Miles offensive philosophy is that of the Big ten in 80-90's three yards and a cloud of dust, just throw enough to keep them from stacking the box, don't turn the ball over, control the clock.

The problem is this doesn't always work and his chosen QB is not accurate enough to keep them from stacking the box. He scares no one as he cant throw a pass under 20 yards worth a shite and regularly over throws screen pass by 5 yards. Also, if we are running this the TE needs to be involved in catching passes.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:27 pm to
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lolz. Whats funny is AJ keeps starting and plays at his current abysmal level...he will pass JJ. 


Again, no he wont. He won't come close to JJ'S career qb rating,career compl %, nor his td/int ratio. Also JJ didn't start anywhere near 4 years.
Posted by winnoworelse
Good Ole Louisiana Bayou
Member since Jun 2004
2769 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:27 pm to
Mett only ended up at LSU because he had no other options. He didn't recruit Mett. He landed here. Ryan Perrilloux? Give me a break he was terrible.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

But you still can't get yourself out of that singlewide, after all this time? 


My degree from Duke pays for more than a single wide buddy. Stop projecting your entire family tree onto other people.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 8/5/15 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Miles offensive philosophy is that of the Big ten in 80-90's three yards and a cloud of dust, just throw enough to keep them from stacking the box, don't turn the ball over, control the clock. 


Miles has proven that he will pass the ball a lot if he trusts the qb.
JRUSS in 2006, Flynn in 2007, JJ/JJLee (combined),and Mett 2013 were all top 5,in the sec, in pass attempts.
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