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re: The potential loss of JL after 2010..
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:26 pm to LSUAlum2001
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:26 pm to LSUAlum2001
If JJ continues to run the option the way he does, he'll get nicked and JL will be the starter before you know it. I'd hate to see JJ injured, because we need at least two healthy QBs. But that's a real possibility in football at this level. Behind JL, we're really up a creek. RS is no where close to ready.
My hope is that CLM plays JL a bit more to get him in the swing of live SEC action. It's a shame we are in this predicament.
My hope is that CLM plays JL a bit more to get him in the swing of live SEC action. It's a shame we are in this predicament.
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Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Running on Moo St's d-line was no joke
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:29 pm to Colonel Flagg
JL is a pretty good QB, no doubt. Unfortunately he is behind someone who is a little better in a wide variety of ways. JJ just brings more to the offense. It is not that unusual for the back up QB to also be a talented player. There are other positions on the team where talented players don't see much playing time because they are behind more talented players. Look at Ron Brooks for example. This kind of situation occurs on pretty much every team. Also, where could JL transfer to where he would have a better shot at getting playing time? Nichols,ULM? I think it would be better for him to stay at a major college like LSU than to transfer to a small college where he may or may not win out the starting job. Do you not agree?
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:29 pm to CEOTiger
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My hope is that CLM plays JL a bit more to get him in the swing of live SEC action.
Its necessary IMO to have two prepared QB's, JJ will get injured at some point. But Miles is too stubborn and afraid of any controversy.
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It's a shame we are in this predicament.
Damn right.
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:30 pm to tigerbru17
JL has said he is going to stay with LSU, and I believe he will. He has a lot of heart and has worked hard to improve his play, but there has to be something wrong if Miles and Crowton won't start him, especially when they are not pleased with QB performance as they've said numerous times.
JJ is doing the best he can. He hasn't regressed, but he hasn't improved much either, if at all. One thing is for sure though, he has just as much heart as anyone on the team and is giving it his best. The next portion of the season will tell us if that's going to be enough.
Say what you will about either of them, but both have heart, even if they may lack the talent necessary to become a national champion. Both of these kids are class acts, unlike those that put either down.
JJ is doing the best he can. He hasn't regressed, but he hasn't improved much either, if at all. One thing is for sure though, he has just as much heart as anyone on the team and is giving it his best. The next portion of the season will tell us if that's going to be enough.
Say what you will about either of them, but both have heart, even if they may lack the talent necessary to become a national champion. Both of these kids are class acts, unlike those that put either down.
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:31 pm to LSUAlum2001
There are almost no facts to suggest that Lee is a better quarterback than Jefferson.
Nearly all of the facts indicate that Jefferson is a better quarterback than Lee.
I have repeatedly posted the facts. Jefferson bashers have repeatedly ignored the facts.
I would tell the Jefferson bashers to stop acting like ostriches and pull their heads out of the sand, but I don't think that is where their heads are.
Nearly all of the facts indicate that Jefferson is a better quarterback than Lee.
I have repeatedly posted the facts. Jefferson bashers have repeatedly ignored the facts.
I would tell the Jefferson bashers to stop acting like ostriches and pull their heads out of the sand, but I don't think that is where their heads are.
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:33 pm to just me
few are suggesting Lee start over JJ. Some, but nowhere near the majority. Many are suggesting putting getting Lee some appreciable experience. There is huge difference between what you are insinuating and what most want, in reality.
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:33 pm to LSUAlum2001
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Vandy is akin to playing La Tech. Should I post JJ's stats from 2 weeks ago?
Not quite. When we played La Tech last year, they were decimated with injuries and had to play walk on players. Yet, JL was 7 for 22 for 106 yards and even though we barely won that game, La Tech out gained us by over 100 yards. His Bama showing was even worse!
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..and those from Saturday night?
While it is true that JJ had a subpar game against Vandy because he was ill, he didn’t play as bad as it seemed as when I went back and re-watched the game, I noticed that on several of those low passes he was pressured and hit at the same time he was releasing the ball, however, Herm Edwards never mentioned it.
Nevertheless, with the exception of a stupid intentional grounding in which no one blocked for him, he played lights out against NC, and last Saturday against MSU again he played lights out, and Miles said today the JJ of last Saturday is the JJ we are used to seeing everyday in practice. Hence, if that is the case, then JJ did not regress as you stupidly claim because you have a hard on for JL, but has made significant strides and progress, and the only reason our offensive production is so down this season is because of the ultra conservative play calling.
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We cannot win throwing for sub 100 yards per game vs Florida, Alabama and Arkansas.
Then GC needs to get his finger out of his arse and quit being so ultra conservative since JJ can only execute the plays that are called. It’s not rocket science!
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:35 pm to Dead Fish
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quote: JJ, OTOH, has appeared to have regressed since last season.
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You need to stop smoking crack!
Compare JJ's stats the first 3 games last year to the 1st 3 games this year.
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Its necessary IMO to have two prepared QB's, JJ will get injured at some point.
JL is probably far greater prepared to play then basically every other back up in the conference.
People need to stop acting like we are not prepared for an injury. There might be one or two other backup QBs who have ever started a college game in the conference.
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:37 pm to Dead Fish
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Yet, JL was 7 for 22 for 106 yards and even though we barely won that game, La Tech out gained us by over 100 yards. His Bama showing was even worse!
You're not allowed to use these two games when critiquing JL, just FYI.
You may only use his games from 08, but keep in mind that because these were almost 2 years ago, they have no bearing whatsoever on what we may see from JL.
Now try and prove to me that JL isn't an All-SEC QB
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:37 pm to LSU316
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Unfortunately I think you are right and I believe that because I believe that our mediocre coaching staff has an unbeleiveable propensity for accepting mediocrity.
You are right! That's the only reason they never pulled the scholarship away from JL after that NCAA record setting 2008 season.
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:38 pm to Colonel Flagg
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JL is probably far greater prepared to play then basically every other back up in the conference.
He hasn't played in any real game action outside of mop up in almost a year.
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People need to stop acting like we are not prepared for an injury. There might be one or two other backup QBs who have ever started a college game in the conference.
A couple of passing plays wouldn't hurt. It would definitely help. I lean toward a backup with some recent experience if pressed into duty in a clutch situation, maybe you don't.
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:38 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I am speaking to the few. They are a very vocal minority.
few are suggesting Lee start over JJ. Some, but nowhere near the majority.
quote:Don't tell me what I am insinuating. I know what I typed. Just because you infer does not mean that I implied it.
Many are suggesting putting getting Lee some appreciable experience. There is huge difference between what you are insinuating and what most want, in reality.
I also know that I have continuously called for Lee to get at least one possession per game.
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:40 pm to Dead Fish
quote:wow you have said some dumb shite on this board but wow just wow
You are right! That's the only reason they never pulled the scholarship away from JL after that NCAA record setting 2008 season.
this just about tops the listPosted on 9/20/10 at 5:41 pm to just me
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Don't tell me what I am insinuating.
Not a damn thing you can do about it, Dilbert.
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I also know that I have continuously called for Lee to get at least one possession per game.
Good for you. Showing some wisdom here.
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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few are suggesting Lee start over JJ. Some, but nowhere near the majority. Many are suggesting putting getting Lee some appreciable experience. There is huge difference between what you are insinuating and what most want, in reality.
Exactly my concerns on the injury front. I would rather have a JL enter a game with some live action at SEC game speed rather than someone who is cold coming off nothing but practice. Jefferson is going to run the option and/or QB draws if the first three games are any indication, and this will expose him to more hits and possible injuries than a normal pocket QB. I don't understand why asking for a couple of series for JL is calling for JL to take over permanently according to half the rant.
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:42 pm to geauxtigahs87
quote:Correction: (1) you cannot use the 2009 games; (2) you cannot use the interceptions from the 2008 games; (3) you can use the stats from games where LSU was throwing the whole game because LSU was playing catch up after Lee threw pick sixes; however (4) you cannot use the pick sixes.
You're not allowed to use these two games when critiquing JL, just FYI.
You may only use his games from 08, but keep in mind that because these were almost 2 years ago, they have no bearing whatsoever on what we may see from JL.
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:43 pm to Dead Fish
do you really think he didnt play that bad against vandy? he couldn't even hit receivers on screens! are you kidding me?
Something i think we will all agree on is that jj is scared to throw the ball down the field (mainly over the middle). that is his main problem to me. he has to realize running will not be able to save him all of his life from throwing the ball down the field. he has to have the confidence to just let it rip sometimes and i think after seeing what happened to lee in 08 he is scared to death
Something i think we will all agree on is that jj is scared to throw the ball down the field (mainly over the middle). that is his main problem to me. he has to realize running will not be able to save him all of his life from throwing the ball down the field. he has to have the confidence to just let it rip sometimes and i think after seeing what happened to lee in 08 he is scared to death
Posted on 9/20/10 at 5:44 pm to TigerDog83
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Exactly my concerns on the injury front. I would rather have a JL enter a game with some live action at SEC game speed rather than someone who is cold coming off nothing but practice
As often as JJ runs, he will get injured sooner than later. A warm QB with some quality experience is better than a QB who only sees mop up duty.
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