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re: The myth of the great recruiting classes of the past
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:06 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:06 am to Rickdaddy4188
How many OTs did Les put into the nfl in his years here? How many are still playing?
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Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:07 am to justice
its amazing watching them talk themselves into corners.....
look at miles underachieve with all that talent
there wasnt much talent under miles
look at miles underachieve with all that talent
there wasnt much talent under miles
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:08 am to lsupride87
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NFL Draft picks from SEC schools last 10 years (2008-2017):
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LSU 65
This is what is infuriating when you look and consider the lack of hardware attained during this period. Should have been more.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:10 am to Lester Earl
They won’t show you that. They will obfuscate it with a list of skill players....just numbers....yeah it’s impressive. But you need more than just rbs and dbs to win a game.....you need more than one stud linebacker.....you need ots, a real center with all the intangibles.....
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:12 am to Robbytiger
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did Bama play two true freshmen on their o line at the same damn time last year
and whose fault is it that LSU had to do this?
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:13 am to Tiger Ree
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Brilliant for an assistant coach to push for a HC to be fired. Even when he knows that the whole staff including himself, in most instances would also be let go when a new HC was hired. Is this really what you think?
You think an incoming coach would get rid of Aranda? Orgeron, for all his faults is an elite DL coach and recruiter for other coaches. I highly doubt an incoming coach would get rid of the entire staff. Orgeron had way more to gain than lose.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 10:13 am
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:14 am to Robbytiger
Don’t get me wrong....LSU has had many great skill players over the years....
But they have always lacked the whole package
You can’t just recruit a bunch of guards and expect them to develop into a position they are just not built for...
Dumb dumb dumb idea.....give LSU back their money geez
But they have always lacked the whole package
You can’t just recruit a bunch of guards and expect them to develop into a position they are just not built for...
Dumb dumb dumb idea.....give LSU back their money geez
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 10:15 am
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:15 am to RedTigerRulz
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This is what is infuriating when you look and consider the lack of hardware attained during this period. Should have been more.
i think everyone would agree that a better tactician would've won more with the talent Miles had but thats in a vacuum. miles was one of the biggest reason all that talent was at lsu. he has been a good recruiter everywhere he has been.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:17 am to Rickdaddy4188
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look at miles underachieve with all that talent there wasnt much talent under miles
it's hilarious. by the lack of talent Les had it seems he was extremely underrated as a coach with all the success he had with such terrible recruiting classes and no talent. Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:19 am to Rickdaddy4188
Yes but his talent was always a skatterbrained attempt at recruiting....no real plan.....just get a bunch of 5 star rbs and dbs to bolster the rankings....
It was smoke and mirrors hiding for what was lacking
It was smoke and mirrors hiding for what was lacking
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:19 am to Robbytiger
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But they have always lacked the whole package
Oh, so in other words they're like 95% of the teams in the country?
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:24 am to Goldrush25
Except Bama....for some reason they always seem to have it all
Money power persuasion, sec office in their state
All the cards in their favor. Imagine that
Money power persuasion, sec office in their state
All the cards in their favor. Imagine that
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:25 am to Robbytiger
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Yes but his talent was always a skatterbrained attempt at recruiting....no real plan.....just get a bunch of 5 star rbs and dbs to bolster the rankings....
It was smoke and mirrors hiding for what was lacking
you don't honestly believe this, do you? this is just hyperbole to prove your point, right?
...
...
right?
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:27 am to Robbytiger
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The agenda was to make O look bad as quickly as possible to get him fired quickly
this is one of the most moronic things i've read on this site.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:28 am to Dave England
I absolutely believe it.
All skill players
Louisiana is a hotbed of talent —for skill players
That’s it....
We lack good o line recruiting
All skill players
Louisiana is a hotbed of talent —for skill players
That’s it....
We lack good o line recruiting
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:29 am to Robbytiger
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But you need more than just rbs and dbs to win a game.....you need more than one stud linebacker...
you have no fricking clue what youre talking about.
2014 dline players
bower
gilmore
godchaux
herron
hunter
key
lacouture
neal
rasco
2014 oline
westhersby
clapp
boutte
pocic
washjngton
lael collins
hawkins
porter
malone
dodd
brumfield
vadal Alexander
2014 lbs
kwon Alexander
donnie alexander
beckwith
debo Jones
Lamar Louis
duke riley
2015 oline
abdul
boutte
clapp
pocic
brumfield
Campbell
cushenberry
dodd
hawkins
malone
magee
pocic
weathersby
2015 dline
washington
neal
lawrence
lacouture
key
herron
gilmore
godchaux
bower
alexander
2015 lbs
alexander
beckwith
divinity
debo jones
duke riley
lamar louis
now please take your proven football ignorant opinion somewhere where people dont check the bullshite you spew.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:30 am to Rickdaddy4188
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miles was one of the biggest reason all that talent was at lsu. he has been a good recruiter everywhere he has been.
I've never disputed this..BUT...give me a mediocre recruiter who coaches his arse off and raises the level of play of 3-4 star recruits anyday. JMO
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:31 am to Rickdaddy4188
Mostly all skill players. Not o linemen
How many o lineman are starting in the nfl from that list?
How many o lineman are starting in the nfl from that list?
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:31 am to 00 Tech Grad
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You think an incoming coach would get rid of Aranda?
You think any coach coming from another program would allow his staff to be dictated to him as a condition of his hiring? What else will he told he has to do in the future. It is his butt on the line and he is essentially being told how he has to coach.
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I highly doubt an incoming coach would get rid of the entire staff.
Usually the only people who are held over are administrative staff that no one is aware of like Sam Nader and Sharon Lewis for LSU.
Some coaches bring their entire staffs to the new program. Herman brought everyone besides Applewhite and would have brought him but he got Herman's old job. I believe Scott Frost brought his entire staff to Nebraska and Willie Taggert did the same to Oregon.
Posted on 4/19/18 at 10:31 am to RedTigerRulz
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I've never disputed this..BUT...give me a mediocre recruiter who coaches his arse off and raises the level of play of 3-4 star recruits anyday. JMO
no one wins titles without elite talent.
its literally never happened in cfb.
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