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re: The myth of the great recruiting classes of the past

Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:52 am to
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
16891 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:52 am to
quote:

His voice goof. Not his look

Now. Go find a sound bite of the usc coach....and let’s compare you tard!


Jesus Christ

You said Hollywood image. I posted an image. You know the difference between seeing and hearing, right?
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
15746 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:53 am to
quote:

so Miles WAS NOT underachieving with all that nfl talent?


Miles is the coach:

any idiot can win 10 games at lsu

look at all that nfl talent he is wasting

miles is the only thing holding us back from winning titles

we are the 2nd most talented team in cfb

MILES ISNT THE COACH

miles really wasnt bringing in talent

you expect 10 wins? spoiled

this is a rebuild

I don't always agree with you, but you are right on this one. Can't have it both ways. Either the new HC moves the program forward: W-L, Div champ, SEC champ or playoffs or he doesn't.

There are certainly factors that can be part of the equation of success such as injury, experience, schedule etc., but ultimately results matter and you don't get a pass if you want to coach an upper tier program in the SEC. SEC football is unforgiving and if you can't operate in that environment you can go find a job at an FCS school.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
15957 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:53 am to
quote:

For O’s sake....i hope he fired the evaluators of talent under Miles......

They were dog shite in my opinion


We have Coach Cregg now. Did you know he has a Super Bowl ring?
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17745 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Even Saban loses without experience and good recruits.......case in point. His first year at Bama and his loss to ULM

Bama should never lose to ULM

But he did now didn’t he?


Your logic fails and you just got owned but you won’t admit it...


Yeah and Saban was also in year 1 of a rebuild, something we weren't supposed to be and which is why O was hired in the first place.

Does that excuse the loss to Troy? Because Saban lost to ULM 10 years ago?
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:55 am to
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Even Saban loses without experience and good recruits.......case in point. His first year at Bama and his loss to ULM

Bama should never lose to ULM

But he did now didn’t he?


Your logic fails and you just got owned but you won’t admit it...


Sabans first year at bama, wasnt bama coming off sanctions?

he had to completely gut that team and torpedo the two deep. the fact that he almost beat LSU in OT is a testament to how good of a coach he is.

Ed Orgeron meanwhile inherited an LSU roster loaded with talent:

LINK /

furthermore, O had already been in Baton Rouge since January 2015.


can you not see how these two things are not alike?
Probably not, but oh well.
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:57 am to
Whether those four will all start Saturday in the home opener against Chattanooga is unclear. Many of them got the starting nod because projected starters were left home, potentially for unannounced suspensions. Taylor replaced Donnie Alexander, who did not make the trip. Chaisson replaced Arden Key, who traveled with the team but is recovering from shoulder surgery.

LINK
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 11:58 am
Posted by ReelTiger1
Member since Sep 2017
1111 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 11:59 am to
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If Les is an idiot what does that make O? He can't even perform to the level of an idiot.



Who the frick was talking about O?? I wasn't. O wasn't part of my conversation.

Let me show you :

The post said 2005-2016: An idiot could win 10 games with the talent.

The response was : An idiot did win 10 games with that talent


O wasn't coaching during 2005-2016.

. but keep up the MILESTARD standards there Goldrush25
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4328 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:00 pm to
These things happen, some guys are men amongst boys in HS and don't exert much effort to dominate and can't step it up or find out it's just not a good fit and leave. What I will blame miles for is not recruiting legit tackles and that killed us in pass protection and I'll blame him for letting chavis recruit smaller interior lineman and lb's, this killed us against physical running teams. The credit I'll give O is he recognized this and is trying to get better in these areas.
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:02 pm to
Read the article by the advocate


It clearly mentions starters out because of suspensions.....so you have suspensions, transfers, attrition, and injuries

And coach is somehow suppose to overcome that and coach the freshmen up.....Jimbo couldn’t coach a quality qb last year....Saban could not coach up his first year Bama players to beat ULM


Wow. Yeah. Bama should never lose to ULM.....ouch
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21846 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:03 pm to
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Robbytiger



I’m not sure how I’ve never noticed your posts before, but you are now firmly established among the complete dumbasses on this board.

Congratulations

Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:06 pm to
Yeah just call me an idiot and never address my points.....true mark of a weak argument
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:12 pm to
Article is dated September 4. Thought we were talking about Troy game.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:13 pm to
Les's classes were very padded and lacked meat.
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:13 pm to
Lsu was gutted due to suspensions, transfers, attrition, injuries and poor o line recruiting....

Sanctions vs all that above....what’s the difference....bottom line both coaches were working with a less then desired deck

Neither coach was able to beat a team like Troy or ULM.....

And coach O beat Auburn (a team that beat Bama)....a testament to his coaching after his team was able to accrue some experience and some starters returned...
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:18 pm to
LSU was not “gutted” and you have posted nothing to support that.

quote:

Sanctions vs all that above....what’s the difference....



Really? Really? Wow.

Do you know what happens to a school dealing with sanctions?
The situations of 2007 Bama and 2017 LSU are nothing alike, at all.

The auburn game is irrelevant. We are talking about the Troy game. Try to stay on topic.
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:19 pm to
You think all the suspended players returned the next week.....no. They did not.....
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21846 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

Yeah just call me an idiot and never address my points.....true mark of a weak argument



Well there are several other guys addressing your “points”, so I don’t like wasting time going over things that have already been addressed.


But your “point” that I replied to had to do with your completely fabricated theory that:

quote:

They probably looked at our recruits and saw LSU was in need of a rebuild...and they would not SHINE....for at least 2 or 3 years and told LSU, thanks but no thanks



There is nothing to address. That is simply the kind of asinine fabrication that one creates when they have nothing of substance to back up their beliefs.


That, plus your claim that I was somehow “sugar coating” something by pointing out that Orgeron was passed over for the HC job at USC by someone on the same staff that had never even been a HC before clearly show me that you just aren’t even capable of processing one statement and formulating an applicable and understandable response of your own.


Having a back and forth with that type of communicator is not the type of exercise I enjoy wasting my time on.


Again, congratulations on making the list
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 12:22 pm
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17745 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Yeah just call me an idiot and never address my points..


These are your points:

Coach O lost to MSU and Troy because we played so many freshmen who weren't ready to play. Which is OK because Saban lost to ULM 10 years ago

The players who transferred after O was named full time head coach tried to sabotage O to get him fired.

Coach O took over a terrible Ole Miss team and built them up so another coach can benefit from his recruiting.

USC didn't hire Coach O because he didn't have the Hollywood appeal.

Yes, you are an idiot.
This post was edited on 4/19/18 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47426 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

They all magically came back for the Auburn game.....and LSU won. Imagine that. After getting manhandles at Troy, we were hanging in their with a defense that stopped Bama! And we actually beat that team.....do you think all of a sudden Coach O was able to coach up the players then.....no man....those starters were bigger and stronger....



a troy team that south alabama manhandled? my god bruh. stop while your way behind
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1661 posts
Posted on 4/19/18 at 12:25 pm to
Address the suspensions, injuries, attrition, transfers and poor o line recruiting by Miles....

How was coach O suppose to overcome all that....

Saban got a pass for the loss to ULM because of sanctions....

I happen to think Bama’s sanctions and O’s suspensions, injuries, attrition, transfers and poor o line recruitment are on par...

Tell me why you disagree!

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