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re: The most disappointing aspect of the schedule isn't just the East opponents....
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:22 am to MagicCityBlazer
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:22 am to MagicCityBlazer
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The AD probably loves the tough schedule due to televised games, attendance, etc.
attendance is pretty much secured. LSU gets the same tv money as everyone else. ratings don't affect that either way.
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The cost of that was playing an average SEC schedule. I'm not sure why anyone would whine about LSU's schedule this year.
the whining is more about everyone playing an even schedule. i'd have no problem with LSU's schedule if bama and tamu played the same teams.
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:35 am to GeauxTigerTM
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IIIIIIIIIF LSU is undefeated going into that bye week before BAMA, then we'll be sitting pretty.
LSU will be sitting pretty with one SEC loss going in to the Bama and TAMU stretch. They would still control their own destiny.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:43 am to Tiger Voodoo
feel sorry for OM, they gonna get quite a few beat downs in a row 
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:36 am to laxer17
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feel sorry for OM, they gonna get quite a few beat downs in a row
Ole Miss has every right to feel the same way LSU does concerning its conference, but don't think they will be the walk you make them out to be, especially at home.
They are trending in the right direction, and will upset one of the big 3 in the West. I'm hoping it's not us.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:49 am to wahoocs
The schedule is set and the dates fixed. We must play one by one. This whining over the schedule by the fans and to an extent by CLM is pointless. You know the bs about the traditional foes and also where the league office is located. The administration is likely taking the issue up in a failed manner with the gumps in the league office. This is like bitching about the Yankees and the fact that they have a limitless payroll. It is what it is......
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:52 am to bayoubengal225
Why do our fans have to always find something to complain about?
One could also point out that our 2 byes are prior to are most important games of the year.
Bye
Bama
Bye
A&M
Personally, I don't mind having 2 weeks to prepare for each of those games.
One could also point out that our 2 byes are prior to are most important games of the year.
Bye
Bama
Bye
A&M
Personally, I don't mind having 2 weeks to prepare for each of those games.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:54 am to weptiger
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The schedule is set and the dates fixed. We must play one by one. This whining over the schedule by the fans and to an extent by CLM is pointless.
No it isnt. With more expansion imminent, the schedule has to change. And it's clear favoritism is gaining traction with media outlets because certain coaches bring it up.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:56 am to More beer please
Talking about this season. The gripes on this thread are, for the most part, specific to this seasons schedule.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:00 pm to weptiger
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Talking about this season. The gripes on this thread are, for the most part, specific to this seasons schedule.
Correct, pointing out the clear favoritism.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:21 pm to weptiger
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It is what it is
Not sure what your argument here is, but when it ends with this, you have no argument.
It is what it is, until it affects those that can effect change.
Does your best friend sleep with your wife?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:32 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Quality of the East opponents is waaaaaay more of a factor than our bye week.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 12:50 pm to wahoocs
I'll break it down for you.
The point is the futility in whining about the schedule this season. Thus, the comment pertaining to it being what it is....you cannot change this seaaon's schedule. If you want to whine in an attempt to gain media sympathy as leverage in future schedule creation that is another issue. But these guys on here bitching about bye weeks and lack of quality Eastern opponents for Bama/aTm just doesn't look good, especially for a team that has had the success LSU's had in recent years. 2011 was arguably one of the toughest schedules played in recent memory and it worked out well, except for the January 9th debacle. You don't know until you play the games and these guys on here basically implying that it isn't fair or that we can't compete represent a futile point of view relative to this season.
The comment about the bride just demonstrates you have nothing else to offer.
The point is the futility in whining about the schedule this season. Thus, the comment pertaining to it being what it is....you cannot change this seaaon's schedule. If you want to whine in an attempt to gain media sympathy as leverage in future schedule creation that is another issue. But these guys on here bitching about bye weeks and lack of quality Eastern opponents for Bama/aTm just doesn't look good, especially for a team that has had the success LSU's had in recent years. 2011 was arguably one of the toughest schedules played in recent memory and it worked out well, except for the January 9th debacle. You don't know until you play the games and these guys on here basically implying that it isn't fair or that we can't compete represent a futile point of view relative to this season.
The comment about the bride just demonstrates you have nothing else to offer.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 2:14 pm to weptiger
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The point is the futility in whining about the schedule this season
I'm not whining. Only explaining why this conference can stick it in their collective asses.
I have a vested interest in LSU football, and I usually care about my investments. I'm now less invested in it as it pertains to conference support.
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But these guys on here bitching about bye weeks and lack of quality Eastern opponents for Bama/aTm just doesn't look good
Really? A message board made for and by LSU supporters discussing inequities in scheduling as it pertains to winning championships.
LSU players dedicate themselves to their sport just as much as any other team, and deserve the same chance at achieving their goals. It's damn easy for you to turn your cheek to it, and ridicule those that would have the nerve to mention it.
You're more accepting to the conditions, a good little boy.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 2:52 pm to wahoocs
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You're more accepting to the conditions, a good little boy.
Nope. I just don't waste my time on stuff beyond my control. Real competitors in sports, business, etc. don't either. You prepare for and play the opponent in front of you. You don't start making excuses for your failure in advance. Seems by the content of your remarks you may be well acquainted with excuse making and failure.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 3:25 pm to weptiger
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Seems by the content of your remarks you may be well acquainted with excuse making and failure.
I believe in making my own destiny, not dealing with what fate has in store for me.
The facts of arbitrary scheduling for the past two seasons, and the two forthcoming seasons, are right in front of you and everyone to see.
The facts of common opponents since the origin of divisions is also not something left to subjective thought.
There are indisputable ways to determine worthy champions in this conference that would include fair and equitable scheduling. Money and politics are in the way of what is right once again.
But, there is hope. Not for people like you, though. Once upon a time, there were multiple national champions. Then came the need for the BCS. And, now even a playoff.
What brought about these changes for the better? Not people like you, for damn sure. I find it perplexing that someone with such a liberal view of things can also feel so helpless to affect change. And, by all means, please get insulted when someone would dare to bring these inequities to light.
I already deal with an uneven playing field in all aspects of my life as a consumer, citizen, parent, and provider. I'll be damned if I have to support and follow these same conditions as a fan of my sports teams.
There is absolutely no excuse for what is taking place in this conference in regards to scheduling. The conference that has provided the BCSNC 7 years running has only 14 teams, not 120+, and should be able to determine a worthy representative in 12 games.
I think you are naive and easily taken advantage of by others. Oh, and I have definite issues, too.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 3:41 pm to weptiger
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If you want to whine in an attempt to gain media sympathy as leverage in future schedule creation that is another issue
yes, that's the point.
but i'll never understand anyone who doesn't recognize the difference in the two schedules.
"just lace em up and play em one game at a time"
that's fine if you can drop a few games and get into the playoffs, but when 1 loss is the difference btwn success and failure, i'd prefer the easy road.
just ask UGA how they won the east last yr.
this isn't XBOX. tough games week in and week out take a toll.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 5:30 pm to TDTGodfather
My comments, if you bother to truly read them, pertained to this season. I even commented on the fact that leveraging the issue for future change is necessary. However, getting on here and whining about this seasons schedule when it is already fixed just builds in excuses for failure. I don't think the context of my comments are that difficult to grasp, but apparently some folks are comprehension challenged.
Liberal? No. Frankly, just the opposite. I think my comments are consistent in that I am not whining that the schedule isn't "fair." LSU is stuck with this schedule. Fact. Bitching about it serves no point. Doing so sounds liberal from my viewpoint. "Oh, we cant't win because those gumps over in the SEC office screwed us on the schedule? We lost x number of games because of the schedule." Fix it in the future, bitch at Alleva or folks in the SEC office, but getting on here and complaining about doesn't do anything to effectuate change and only serves to create a list of excuses for the THIS season.
Liberal? No. Frankly, just the opposite. I think my comments are consistent in that I am not whining that the schedule isn't "fair." LSU is stuck with this schedule. Fact. Bitching about it serves no point. Doing so sounds liberal from my viewpoint. "Oh, we cant't win because those gumps over in the SEC office screwed us on the schedule? We lost x number of games because of the schedule." Fix it in the future, bitch at Alleva or folks in the SEC office, but getting on here and complaining about doesn't do anything to effectuate change and only serves to create a list of excuses for the THIS season.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 6:31 pm to weptiger
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but getting on here and complaining about doesn't do anything to effectuate change and only serves to create a list of excuses for the THIS season.
We lose 2-3 games this year, period.
Bama loses 1, still plays for all the marbles. It can even be to us. Why?
Schedule.
It's not an excuse. "It is what it is" (LOL).
I listened to several interviews today with Slive. He discussed the playoff and how they were trying to satisfy the fans, and that this all came about because of public outcry.
This is a forum. Specifically an LSU forum. Titled Tiger Rant. It would be no doubt a great starting point to discuss scheduling issues.
I find your attitude to be the ineffectuative one. When do you think the worm will turn on this one? Can you foresee this thing balancing out in LSU's favor, or better yet, against Alabama with Saban?
Saban is calling shots right now. Do you think Finebaum becomes a national figure on his own merit? LOL
Everything Alabama with Saban sells better. They will face the least amount of obstacles they can. Their schedule is the Boise St. of the SEC. Everybody repeats the 14-2, 1-15 records, but no one ever mentions that the one win is because those teams played each other.
Alabama doesn't need any help achieving their goals, and they don't ask for it, they just receive it. Saban said today, he coached LSU, he knows better than anybody what's going on. He knows when he coached here, we ranked eighth in the conference in least penalized. He knows that when he won the NC in 2003, that a Zook led FL beat him at home 19-7, yet a Manning led TN NEVER defeated FL.
Saban wants 9 games. Saban will get 9 games. And thank God for that.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 7:53 pm to weptiger
How did the word "liberal" get thrown in and what does it have to do with anything?
If our bitching doesn't affect anything then why does it "build in excuses for failure"?
If anyone can't see the disparity btwn LSU's sched & bama's, then they're being willfully ignorant.
If our bitching doesn't affect anything then why does it "build in excuses for failure"?
If anyone can't see the disparity btwn LSU's sched & bama's, then they're being willfully ignorant.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 7/18/13 at 8:04 pm to TDTGodfather
The AD does not have any control over the SEC schedule. A person that works in Birmingham, Alabama holds all of the power. The Lsu AD has been bitching to anyone who will listen.
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