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re: The LSU OL was bad but the RBs didn't help them out
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:49 pm to Bacon84
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:49 pm to Bacon84
There were a lot more holes than you and others say. HOWEVER, it IS important to have the holes where they are designed to be. IF NOT, that is where shiftiness and the vision of the LOS comes in. Once again, I have watched a lot of different teams play in these bowl games. Besides having that extra gear in the open field, the other factor that separates the good running back from the average RB is the LOS vision and the ability to cut to the "new hole". Durham is an average RB and Jackson for example is a below average RB.
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Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:51 pm to LSBoosie
that's on play design, and probably instructions to RB's to hit the hole designated hard....and that is what they did, but there was no hole most of the time. Their main successes were when they bounced outside of the designated holes and used their speed on the outside. I lay most of the blame on the play design that didn't help the OL and certainly didn't help the RBs.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:57 pm to NotaStarGazer
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Other than Berry, I 100% do believe that.
Ok so you believe Durham wouldn’t be RB1 on any team in all of college football?
Posted on 12/31/25 at 6:58 pm to NotaStarGazer
…… isn’t the OL supposed to help the running backs
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:15 pm to LSBoosie
Obviously, I'm talking FBS only. But to continue with an example, he wouldn't be the #1 back at La Tech which is hardly a dynamo in Conference USA.
And if you reread the post I responding to, you were talking running backS. That means the entire RB room. And yes, excluding Berry, the LSU RB room is NOT very good. Everyone has given up on Jackson and Johnson hardly gets any carries. Durham stays injured all the time and still has LOS vision issues even when healthy.
And if you reread the post I responding to, you were talking running backS. That means the entire RB room. And yes, excluding Berry, the LSU RB room is NOT very good. Everyone has given up on Jackson and Johnson hardly gets any carries. Durham stays injured all the time and still has LOS vision issues even when healthy.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:33 pm to ATLSUfan
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isn’t the OL supposed to help the running backs
Clearly, it is supposed to be a symbiotic relationship.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 7:50 pm to NotaStarGazer
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Obviously, I'm talking FBS only.
Gotcha. So you think Brandon Hood and Rod Gainey Jr are better than Durham?
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And if you reread the post I responding to, you were talking running backS. That means the entire RB room. And yes, excluding Berry
Ahh yes. So you were referring to the entire running back room excluding the best running back… makes sense.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 8:07 pm to NotaStarGazer
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Please refer me to some -51 yard runs. BTW, where did I ever criticize his yards after contact? Psst, here's the RELEVANT issue. Do NOT get contacted to begin with. If you can, move along the LOS to find the place to run. That is the real goal.
This highlights how ridiculous your posts are. You are trying to make the case that the running backs were a part of the issue with the running game, significant enough to warrant a post. But you fail to see why yards after contact refutes this and suggest that a back run along the LOS until he finds a place to run, as though the O-line getting pushed into the backfield and missing edge blocks doesn't impact that. Forget about the fact that explosive runs are also part of what you want from a running back and the ability to shed tackles (yards after contact).
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My posts deserve better responses than from a lazy poster like you.
Your posts generally deserve to be deleted.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 8:40 pm to LSBoosie
Actually it does make sense because no team only uses 1 running back. That was obvious but I'm glad you agree with that.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 8:49 pm to mdomingue
I won't even quote your post since it wasn't worth quoting. Many times, the LSU OL was NOT pushed back into the backfield. They didn't push the DL down the field either. Once again, yards after contact is NOT the goal of a running back.. The RB is supposed to find a way where he doesn't get hit at the LOS to begin with. The RB is NOT supposed to run into a pile of players where the run was designed to go there. He is SUPPOSED to try to move to a better area along the LOS with fewer players But hey, apparently you think the run I mentioned when Durham ran into 3 or 4 UH players when all he had to do was to run 1 yard to the left and run through a giant hole was a smart run. Wait.... maybe he got 1 yard after contact...success right? 
As far as whose posts should be deleted, why should you care since you CLAIM that you don't even read mine, So deletions shouldn't matter right? You truly are a hypocritical LIAR and every time you respond to me you PROVE that! And you are a LAZY poster who loves to post utter nonsense!
As far as whose posts should be deleted, why should you care since you CLAIM that you don't even read mine, So deletions shouldn't matter right? You truly are a hypocritical LIAR and every time you respond to me you PROVE that! And you are a LAZY poster who loves to post utter nonsense!
Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:53 pm to NotaStarGazer
Neither did the wrs….
Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:58 pm to NotaStarGazer
Bad coaching + Bad scheme = Bad offense
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:09 am to NotaStarGazer
Seeing a hole on tv and seeing one on the field aren't the same thing.
Measuring any position on the offense we just witnessed is difficult. Poor scheme, poor play calling, poor Oline play, poor QB play, poor blocking by receivers, a slew of stupid penalties and mental mistakes, ...
Pick another hill to die on.
Measuring any position on the offense we just witnessed is difficult. Poor scheme, poor play calling, poor Oline play, poor QB play, poor blocking by receivers, a slew of stupid penalties and mental mistakes, ...
Pick another hill to die on.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:10 am to KWL85
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Seeing a hole on tv and seeing one on the field aren't the same thing.
Actually, it is exactly the same thing. That is why in almost every game, multiple times the color analysts guy second guesses a QB's throw, a WRer's route, a RB's cuts, etc. A hole is a hole...especially if it is like 1 yard to the left of Durham running into a pile. BTW, where you really can see this is on the end zone shots which BTW is essentially the same perspective Durham would be seeing the LOS.
I do agree with your comment that it is more than one thing hurting the offense. My point was indeed it was NOT just the OL or the OL coach...both of which admittedly were bad. I did see some hope when Berry started carrying the ball and made the LOS adjustments that Durham never made (perhaps due to his foot and ankle injuries)
Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:29 am to NotaStarGazer
Nope. Not the same. Entirely different to see holes from the field. I hope anyone that has played RB will chime in.
There are many variables that affect every play. Poor execution with several of those variables really makes it difficult to assess the other components. I would be more agreeable to your point if I had access to game tape and to the coaches. Doing so from the tv view is less accurate and more opinion than fact.
There are many variables that affect every play. Poor execution with several of those variables really makes it difficult to assess the other components. I would be more agreeable to your point if I had access to game tape and to the coaches. Doing so from the tv view is less accurate and more opinion than fact.
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