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re: The LIE about talent

Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:33 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:33 am to
Again, next time make your point of gtfo. You’ve lost my interest here.
Posted by FreeDevin40
Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:33 am to
Look, I know there are some holes in my argument. Maybe I didn't articulate very well.

The point is, I hate the fact Ed blamed the players and put no blame on the scheme. Steve E gets paid millions, or at least hundreds of thousands, he can take the heat.

LSU could have played better. But they damn sure could have coached better.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:33 am to
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You’ve lost my interest here.




Then gtfo.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:34 am to
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Again, next time make your point of gtfo.


The fact that you still can’t abswer a very simple question is making my point better than I ever could have.

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You’ve lost my interest here.


So how many more times are you going to respond to let me know you’re not interested in answering a very simple question?
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:37 am to
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It’s pretty simple. If you conclude that it’s the LSU OL play that shite the game away, and know those teams all put up better offensive numbers than LSU against Bama, then you have to conclude that their offensive lines are better than LSU’s



No. No you don't. Saturday night was the first time that Tua played into the fourth quarter. I would imagine that a lot of those scores were after bama had run up fifty points on them and bama had their thirds in the game.

I don't see how you can come to the conclusion that all of those lines are better than LSU'S.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:38 am to
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I would imagine that a lot of those scores were after bama had run up fifty points on them and bama had their thirds in the game.


And per usual, you'd be wrong.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:40 am to
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No. No you don't. Saturday night was the first time that Tua played into the fourth quarter.


Ole miss, Missouri, and Arkansas all scored touchdowns against Alabama in the first quarter.

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I would imagine that a lot of those scores were after bama had run up fifty points on them and bama had their thirds in the game.


You would imagine wrong. Who could’ve possibly predicted that?

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I don't see how you can come to the conclusion that all of those lines are better than LSU'S.


I don’t either. But if you were capable of logical thought, you would. That explains a lot actually.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 11:42 am
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:42 am to
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And per usual, you'd be wrong


No I'm not. Mizzou scored on them in the first quarter. Other than that I'm not sure but I will check when I get home.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:43 am to
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No I'm not.


Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:43 am to
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No I'm not. Mizzou scored on them in the first quarter. Other than that I'm not sure but I will check when I get home.




Ole Miss on play number one. Arkansas scored TDs in the first and second quarters. A&M scored a TD in the first quarter.
Posted by Four Leaf Tayback
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:46 am to
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Oh so you're breaking out the old lying routine. Yeah you have a great day.


Triggered.

Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:47 am to
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I don’t either. But if you were capable of logical thought, you would. That explains a lot actually


So now you think that the offensive line sucks. Earlier it wasn't the Oline. You can't pick a side and stick with it.

Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:54 am to
LSU showed their hand early and Alabama knew that the Tigers were not going to run, so they just pinned their ears back and came. They didn't have to blitz, so that freed the linebackers up to take care of LSU's run game. LSU stayed with this game plan, so Alabama just kept on coming. LSU's scheme was a gift for Alabama.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:07 pm to
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LSU showed their hand early and Alabama knew that the Tigers were not going to run, so they just pinned their ears back and came. They didn't have to blitz, so that freed the linebackers up to take care of LSU's run game. LSU stayed with this game plan, so Alabama just kept on coming. LSU's scheme was a gift for Alabama


So does this explain Bama's dominance at the line of scrimmage?
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10335 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:14 pm to
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So now you think that the offensive line sucks. Earlier it wasn't the Oline. You can't pick a side and stick with it.


Literally none of that is true.

You are lying again.

Why do you feel the need to constantly lie anonymously on the Internet Ben? Do you think it makes you look cool or something?
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:21 pm to
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So does this explain Bama's dominance at the line of scrimmage?


Since Alabama was not concerned about LSU running the ball, their DL didn't have worry about reads. Yes, they were obviously a talent gap, but LSU's play calling just made it easy for Alabama. This made the talent gap even more evident. Alabama was coached up and ready. LSU was not. Schemes and smart coaching can minimize a talent gap. By making the excuse of blaming the talent gap, you saying that LSU's offense is less talented than Alabama' previous opponents, who managed to score sometimes early against Alabama. The talent gap is partially to blame, but the coaching is far more liable.
Posted by Spotswoode
Mount Rushmore
Member since Aug 2018
1594 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:29 pm to
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LSU's d-line, without chaisson factored in because he's out, averages a .949 ranking on 24/7. That's with ferrel factored in who is the lowest at .88. Bama offered all these guys except alexander for some reason. So according to ED, these guys are good enough to play for bama but not talented to compete with them.

Your mistake: Bama did NOT offer these guys. bama routinely gives tons of offers that are NOT committable. Then they sort through the ones who want to come. Lawrence is probably the only dlineman who played Saturday that Bama would have signed.
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Bama offered deculus and ingram.

Yes, and had they gone to bama they would not have seen the field yet. Maybe next year when they are much better, but not now.

I also noticed you chose not to show Bama's oline ratings for comparison.

Bama has a gigantic talent advantage. They had about 12 guys drafted last year. I promise you Bama will have significantly more guys drafted, each of the next five years, than LSU will.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33020 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:35 pm to
Muh rebuild tho
Posted by lsu311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:40 pm to
Nailed it! Also it was evident to me that Bama plays with so much more effort and speed. They get off blocks and don’t miss tackles. Their backs run extremely hard.
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:42 pm to
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Nailed it! Also it was evident to me that Bama plays with so much more effort and speed. They get off blocks and don’t miss tackles. Their backs run extremely hard.


It's called coaching and teaching.
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