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Posted on 1/20/12 at 6:13 am to tiger88
What a bunch of crap.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 6:19 am to tiger88
College football changed somewhat with the LSU loss. We may have to wait a couple of months to see how the fallout, but things are going to be different.
Les himself hasn't changed much, but is still Les...take the good and the bad, kind of like being married. Richer, poorer..sickness, health, etc.
Les himself hasn't changed much, but is still Les...take the good and the bad, kind of like being married. Richer, poorer..sickness, health, etc.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 6:23 am to DP40
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Hallman flat-lined the program? Destroyed it? It's foundation?
That's pretty much true - I was there.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 6:36 am to tiger88
quote:if true, does not bode well for Mett or future LSU QB s.
The LesBechler Theory
If the QB is a mere 'game manager', not a playmaker, who does not need to have talent and high level passing skills, this offense could indeed turn into Bo 2.0.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 6:51 am to Ace Midnight
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That's pretty much true - I was there.
You being does not make it true. The foundation was not destroyed by Hallman. The structure? Yeah, but LSU did not get SMU'd by Hallman, it was way too strong for that.
DiNardo proved that, but he only half-arse starting rebuilding the structure.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:01 am to DP40
The Hallman years were pretty m*therf*cking bleak, in almost every aspect that defines a successful football program. Over four years, 5-6 twice, 2-9 and 4-7, and teams that weren't even remotely competitive (save the '93 win at Bama).
Archer gets partial credit for steering the ship too close to the rocks, but instead of adjusting course Curley goosed the throttle. It's a fair statement to say that Hallman took what he was given and made it much worse. Arguing over damage done structure versus foundation is splitting hairs - the program was a laughing stock.
Archer gets partial credit for steering the ship too close to the rocks, but instead of adjusting course Curley goosed the throttle. It's a fair statement to say that Hallman took what he was given and made it much worse. Arguing over damage done structure versus foundation is splitting hairs - the program was a laughing stock.
This post was edited on 1/20/12 at 7:06 am
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:11 am to tiger88
quote:Gerry DiNardo did not build The Foundation. That was built by the hard work of coaches decades before DiNardo arrived. However, DiNardo can be credited with demolishing the gutted firetrap that Archer and Hallman left to him. He can also be credited with leaving an excellent framing for Saban to build upon. DiNardo's main problem was that one of his subcontractors was a complete moron.
Dinardo inherited a flat-lined program. He worked as hard as Gaius Marius to bring back enough magic to build The Foundation.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:15 am to Tiger Voodoo
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*LM??
Is this the new super diabolical internet geek way of disrespecting Miles by not recognizing him as a "Coach", even in initials.
Or is it just this one nerd's thing?
i was wondering the same thing. im still waiting for a response....im sure it will be awesome and informative
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:17 am to tiger88
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*LM seasons 1-4 bowl games : 4 wins 0 loses
*LM seasons 5-7 bowl games: 1 win 2 loses
Hmmm,
LM with JJ as QB in bowl: 2-2
LM with anyone else: 3-0
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:19 am to M. A. Ryland
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Hmmm,
LM with JJ as QB in bowl: 2-2
LM with anyone else: 3-0
stop...you're going to ruin his well typed out, yet poorly thought out, hyposthesis...and it seems like he spent alot of time on it.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:31 am to Choctaw
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i was wondering the same thing. im still waiting for a response....im sure it will be awesome and informative
This thread is so stupid that all I care about is finding out what the asterisk is for.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:45 am to cajunjim
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I dread where we are headed. Miles is so hard headed. He is no longer the hat. H ecould be great, but waste the best talen in collegew football. Why did Lee Stay?
what. the. frick. Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:54 am to Stevo
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why does everyone underestimate the contribution that Mark Emmert
I've always asked that question too.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 7:55 am to DrEdgeLSU
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In 11 years of college coaching, there have only been four years where run plays were used more than 2/3 of the time throughout a season. Not coincidentally, those 4 seasons coincided with times when Les Miles was coaching a "run threat" QB - 2004 with Donovan Woods, and 2009-2011 with Jefferson. 2011 is a unique story, though -- people want to believe that when Lee was in we threw the ball all over the place. Not true. LSU ran the ball 591 times in 2011 -- the most since we ran the ball 612 times in 2007.
The difference? LSU was also able to pass in 2007, whereas in 2011 that was a highly limited part of the game.
I don't think anything should be read into this other than Les Miles' offensive philosophy seems to change depending on the type of QB he has as a "starter," and it is clear that he favored JJ as a starter since late 2008, even after being suspended this year. The philosophy has been different with different starters, like Josh Fields at OSU, JR and Matt Flynn at LSU.
In Miles' first three years at LSU, when he had quality passers as starters, LSU averaged over 3100 yds passing a year. In the last 4, when we mainly utilized a "running" QB, LSU averaged 2280 yds a year. That's fine in a year like 2011, when you also rush for 2800+ yds. That's NOT fine in 2009, when you only rush for 1600 ( ).
this is one hell of a post. well done, sir.
Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:05 am to BeeFense5
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This thread is so stupid that all I care about is finding out what the asterisk is for.
This...I'm sure it's awesome.
11 days and counting...
You know what's going to REALLY suck about next season? Not losing, because I don't think LSU will be doing any of it. It'll be NOT LOSING with Mett at the helm, and fricktards COMPLAINING all fricking year long about 2011 and how Miles should have turned everything over to him then!!! Much like much of this year, the malcontents will ruin the joy of actually winning bitching about other stuff.
Yay...can't wait!
Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:06 am to GarmischTiger
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Is this a Bo reference?
If so, I see where you're going, but it took a while to figure out. It's kinda all over the place - a bit like the theory.
Try Leshembechler.
I was thinking about Bo-Schem-Miles before considering a couple more and settling, rather hastily I admit, with Lesbechler. But yes, it is a definite reference too boring f**king football that lost most of its bowl games and never won a national championship.
This post was edited on 1/20/12 at 8:07 am
Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:07 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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if true, does not bode well for Mett or future LSU QB s.
If the QB is a mere 'game manager', not a playmaker, who does not need to have talent and high level passing skills, this offense could indeed turn into Bo 2.0.
This is exactly my worry. And I hope I am completely wrong about Miles, and I could be. But my worst fear is him installing a circa '70 Meechigan offense, as he was obviously doing, and rather progressively this past season.
This post was edited on 1/20/12 at 8:15 am
Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:09 am to tiger88
hey....slapnuts. whats the damn * about?
Posted on 1/20/12 at 8:11 am to tiger88
How exactly is Les' personal scheme of power running and great defense any different than the Saban default scheme of power running and great defense?
QB talent was the problem these last few years not scheme no matter how many time you post your Lesschembechler bullshite. The scheme is a proven winner
QB talent was the problem these last few years not scheme no matter how many time you post your Lesschembechler bullshite. The scheme is a proven winner
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