re: The KNOW YOUR PLACE Thread: Up Pg 12: Will Blackwell Knows His Place

Update for 12/15: THE REMATCH and 2012

The seven page thread this morning regarding Herby's quest to pimp USC over LSU this year has inspired me to cover two more topics:

The Rematch and 2012

First: The Rematch

Fellow Tiger Fans, there is nothing in this world that should "put you in your place" more than the rematch with Bama. I've already pimped my other thread about the ever changing BCS "rules" for the media darlings ( How The BCS Works For Entitled/Media Darlings) enough. Take another look if you want a good laugh. However, THE REMATCH literally boils down to two things:

1) The "experts" in the media being wrong on Nov. 5, 2011
2) Perceived ratings for the game

Let's start with part 1.

All one has to do is look at the thread started by MoreOrLess regarding the first matchup and view the video on LesMiles' web site "No Love". In this thread and this video, there are literally dozens of "experts" picking Bama to easily beat LSU in Tuscaloosa. After all, LSU was just lucky that they were able to show up that day and play. With USC on probation, preseason #1 Choklahoma already choking, and other traditional powers like Mich, ND, Tex, etc already with a loss, November 5th was supposed to be Bama's coronation. They were going to take LSU out and would easily win out with that joke of a schedule. There would be NO DISPUTING who as #1 after this. After all, there was still hope LSU, if they beat Bama, could lose to Arky at home and maybe UGA. Bama on the other hand, well, they have a whopping four teams with a winning record on their schedule. This was going to be easy.

But something happened. LSU, those sorry podunk bastards from small market Baton Rouge, pulled off the upset.

But wait. This couldn't be. After all, all the pundits were just so sure they were right (see the video and thread if you need a refresher). These experts aren't paid to be wrong. Well, techically they "weren't" wrong. Bama, after all, did OUTGAIN LSU yardage wise. This alone proves domination when you are an entitled/media darling.

This is also the result when you are a journalist and your hubris dictates you create news, not report it. Many of you here need to take this into account as well. You have to have a HUGE ego to participate in any form of journalism today. Sports media, like political media, expect to control the environment. When they don't get their way, well, you have to lie and twist the numbers.

So, despite the fact that LSU won on the scoreboard, bama just "un-wins". Brilliant! Now we can push for the rematch!!

On a side note: If you apply Media/Entitled/Bama logic to the SECCG, LSU really lost to UGA as well. Seriously. UGA DOMINATED LSU much more than Bama did. UGA deserves a rematch too.

Back on topic: So, after picking LSU to lose the majority of the season, LSU is now 13-0. Well, what better way to shove it up LSU's arse than to have them rematch a team from their own conference and thus, making the "Game of the Century", whose results we didn't like, irrelevant!

No longer does "Every Game Count"....well unless you are a media darling.

If Bama wins January 9th, the media, in their eyes, will finally be vindicated. Historical seasons are not meant for teams like LSU. Historical seasons are meant for teams like Bama, and we are going to put LSU in its rightful place.....hopefully.

Those of you thinking there will be a "split", think again. I can guaran-damn-tee you that there will be no split. Not on behalf of LSU. Not ever. LSU will only get a "split" title similar to the one in 2003. Splits are meant to demean schools like LSU for their unwanted accomplishments.

I don't know about you fellow Tiger Fans, but I am setting my DVR for ESPN's post game coverage on Jan 9th. If LSU wins, I will watch it over and over. I can't wait to hear the excuses and hear what teams would beat us this year despite our historical run....

Which brings me to USC. I think it was in this thread where I pointed out, along with other posters, "Just wait until USC is good again".

Yeah, you won't have to wait long.

I saw the seven-page-and-growing thread on USC this morning and I literally laughed until I hurt.

Fortunately, on page three, there is a USC fan who is very diplomatically putting all of you LSU fans in your place:

Loweralabamatrojan wrote: "What I find funny is that some LSU fans fail to recognize that Los Angeles is a HUGE media market, while Baton Rouge is small potatoes. SC has built in advantages that LSU doesn't. The one thing LSU has going for it over USC is that the Trojans are crippled by sanctions and LSU is rolling."

Praise you man for being so kind to my fellow tiger fans. Later in the thread, several tiger fans claimed that they "understand the business" but can't understand why this BS would be spewed.

Well, let me help you:

ESPN now controls college football.

Believe it.

LSU, along with literally a hundred other podunk schools will now be at the mercy of ESPN, media markets, and perceived ratings.

We are now back to where we were before the BCS: Entitled/media darling schools will rule the day. You people better get used to this or you will lead a miserable existense. You really will.

So, EZE, what can I do to cope?

Well, here is my advice today:

IF LSU wins on Jan 9th, LSU will have just completed a season that NO TEAM in the HISTORY of COLLEGE FOOTBALL has yet to match.

NONE.

ESPN, the media, etc, all are very aware of this. They hate this. In fact, they hate this with a passion, which is why they are putting a team against us with a "quality loss" and a team we already beat. This will be something else they can dispute if we win again. Trust me, they will contradict themselves over and over again to prove themselves right. Remember: HUBRIS.

As an LSU fan, we could go 0-12 every year from 2012 and beyond and I wouldn't care. Why? What LSU did in 2011 will literally be impossible to match again.

Think of how hard it is to schedule that many good teams in a year. Many schedules are made years in advance. In over 100+ years of college football with over 100 teams participating annually, this will be damn near impossible to match.

I'm in shock that my team, LSU, will be the team out of 100+ schools to do it...

And so is ESPN and everyone else in the media who has been wrong.

Seriously, as a fan of CFB, where would your team go from here, historically? Answer: Nowhere. It is on top. Could be several decades before it is matched again.

Bwwwahhhhhaaaaahaaaaaaa

Sleep well Tiger fans. Sleep well. The tears of entitled whiners taste so sweet.

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you stoopid

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Ok....

Thanks for the feedback!

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I can't agree with this. If you're argument is that LSU receives zero respect based on Baton Rouge compared to Tuscaloosa, then you're mislead and incorrect. The Greater Baton Rouge population is four times larger than the Great Tuscaloosa population. Further, Alabama's state population exceeds Louisiana by a mere 5%, mainly because of the mass exodus caused by Katrina (LA had greater population in 2000 consensus over AL). Basically, it's a wash as to market size.

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You are correct on all of these points and this was addressed later in the thread. In fact, there is one writer (I would link it if I could) who also laid this out:

Bama is riding reputation and a faux fan base that exceeds well beyond Tuscaloosa. Bama, out of all SEC schools, draws more ratings the past few decades than UF, then LSU...

That is why.

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This, and a good dose of "chill the F* out," goes a long way in loving football, loving life, and loving LSU, without going overboard.

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Bingo. This is ENTERTAINMENT.

Nothing more, nothing less.

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I think this all has to do with name brand. All of those "big" schools, including 'Bama, will draw the disinterested fan more often than LSU and other "lesser" schools (traditionally).

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No disrespect to you, but that was the whole point of the OP!

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LSU has played in #1, 2, and 3 games with the highest ratings this season.

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Due directly to a historical schedule.

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Glad some of us can see this.

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Expensive entertainment, for sure.

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Years ago, before the internet, an office xerox circulated with an image of Governor Edwin Edwards gesturing with his hands... palms open and approximately 20 inches apart was captioned, ' my dick is this long' and a second image with hands up and slightly cupped, 'and balls the size of grapefruits.'

Today... that is LSU FOOTBALL... GEAUX TIGERS

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Watch how fast that all goes away if LSU has one or two losing seasons. Sports Illustrated won't have a cover announcing to the world "LSU's back" the moment they show a pulse. That is the difference between LSU and the media elite. Think ND when Weis was hired...think ND when Kelly was hired...think Bama every time any coach is hired.

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Think ND when Weis was hired...think ND when Kelly was hired...think Bama every time any coach is hired.

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Not to mention that Notre Dame started Weis' first year unranked, won two games to start the season, then was in the Top 10.

How often do other teams go from being unranked to the Top 10 after two wins?

Answer: It only happens for the media elite.

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I think this all has to do with name brand. All of those "big" schools, including 'Bama, will draw the disinterested fan more often than LSU and other "lesser" schools (traditionally).


No disrespect to you, but that was the whole point of the OP!

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I thought the original point was an insight as to why the "media" loves/favors other schools and disrespects LSU. I didn't believe the post addressed why disinterested fans tuned into 'Bama games over LSU games. Perhaps it was intertwined in the post and I missed it.

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Due directly to a historical schedule.

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I believe it's due to being ranked #1, consistent winning for a decade, and the fact that LSU games (for the most part) are down-right entertaining at times, even to a non-partisan fan. But, a grueling schedule doesn't hurt either.

Entertaining thread. EZE you make some solid points. I do not think we should ever accept the status quo however.....unless we become one of the beneficiaries.

the point is if LSU loses 9-6 on Nov. 5 they are not playing on Jan. 9. Would be 2nd in computers, but nobody would have them 2nd in polls.

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I think you're wrong. I think we're in easily. Again, a major knock on Bama was that they lost at home. LSU would have gotten more of a pass since it was on the road.

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If it would have come down to LSU or Okie Lite, LSU maybe, and I stress "maybe" gets in. I guarantee you the "they won their conference" argument would have been trumpeted much louder and a better case for OSU would have been made.

No way in hell Les Miles would have been invited to gameday.

Now, had it come down to LSU and Oklahoma....OU goes no questions asked.