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Entitled Teams/Media Hypocricy/BCS Formula/Con Champs- Hilarity Ensues UPDATE OP

Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:11 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50269 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:11 am
Yeah yeah. "I'm a dumbass EZE Tiger Fan. I boo my team at TS. This post is TL; DR". Now that this is out of the way for our white trash base of fans. Also, I will add updates when I can to the OP for the next couple of weeks detailing this "phenomenon" just so everyone can get a good laugh and further mock fans from entitled schools like Bama. No doubt their fans will be here for over a month detailing their "right" to play us again, calling us "scared", etc. This is going to be fun for me, anyway. If you don't like it, don't read it.

So, help me out here.

In 2003, when LSU was slated to play OU, it was a travesty, according to the media, that USC wasn't in the game because Oklahoma had lost their last game against KSU. "Oklahoma did not win their conference, therefore, they did not deserve a bid in the BCSNCG". The media beat this dead horse for weeks, crowned USC "co-champs" and basically flushed LSU's win down the toilet. Hell, most still consider USC the "real" champs that year.

In 2004, the CFB world watched as the BCS formula was "simplified" so the humans could have more control over the computers again. The world was right, you see, because now humans could use their knowledge of watching games over the "strength of schedule" that the computers weighed in. A team like USC could play two or three teams with a winning record all year, and it was now OK to put them in a title game over a team with an equal record who played an NFL schedule.

What they didn't mention was that we went back to the very thing we tried to get away from when the BCS was established: The media bias that runs rampant in college football for the ENTITLED teams. Yes, we all know who they are: Bama, Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, Texas, USC, Oklahoma, etc.

Well well, here we are again in 2011 and look who is lucky enough to be at the epicenter of BCS controversy again: LSU. The team the media loves to pretend to love.

So now, these same media morons who in 2003 chanted "you must win your conference to participate in the title game" have all magically changed their tune? Sure. Why not. After all, they hold the majority of control over the "simplified" formula. Why? Well, because once again, one of their traditional ENTITLED DARLINGS needs a break: Bama.

God forbid some podunk school like Oklahoma State (too bad you have STATE at the end of your title...if you were just OU, you'd be a lock...unless you didn't win your conference and the team you needed to pass had the largest media market in CFB) will make it over a team that has already lost to LSU.

Also, in 2011, in order for MichSt, Wisc, VaTech, Clemson, Oregon, or Houston to play in a BCS Bowl game...not THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME, but a plain ole BCS bowl game, what will they have to do? Oh yeah: WIN THEIR FRIGGIN CONFERENCE.

I'll be honest with you, at this point, I do think Bama is the #2 team. I just think the hypocricy put on display by the media needs to be pointed out. shite like this is why the BCS was implemented in the first place, but once again, with the media back in control, we see that some schools don't play on the same playing field as others when it comes to "special considerations" like rankings and title games. And don't give me shite as an LSU fan over 2007. The REASON we were put in the NCG was because WE WON THE SEC.

Another example, just so I'm not just picking on darling Bama is, last night, had ND beat Stanford, they would be playing in a BCS game. All they had to do was beat a few teams with winning records and voila! Payoff! LSU (along with dozens of other schools) was a 10 win team last season. Were they in a BCS game like Notre Dame? No. They had a different road to hoe to "earn" it.

Long story short, the BCS was originally created to prevent this type of bias for the entitled teams. In 2004, to benefit an entitled team, the formula was changed and now, we are back to where we were before. Except now, the media can blame their frickery on the BCS system.

Go ahead and put Bama in the game.

As far as I'm concerned, the BCS shouldn't exist anymore anyway. The entitled teams will always find a way in no matter what.

Entitled teams need not play tough schedules: save that for the other teams to "earn their right" into the game. Let the entitled teams lose the big games at home, schedule nobody, and still make the game. That's what the media is going to do anyway, and they've proven they will corrupt any system that tries to fix it.

The next week will be amusing to me. I don't watch shows like Gameday. I quit in 2003. I will watch it for the first time this coming Saturday so I can see the hypocricy and get a laugh out of it.

Then, I will come here and read posts from Bama fans discussing what they "deserve". As good as LSU is right now, I hope we never become one of those schools. I prefer playing a tough schedule, pounding other teams, hearing the media make excuses for the losers, pick us to lose again next week, and then be proven wrong again. Makes it that much sweeter.

11/28 - Hilarity Hypocricy Update:
So, let's go back to 2003 again. Another point I forgot in my rant that is valid with USC's split "title".

So, USC lost to Cal in OT, which was another argument the media started....

"USC was not beaten in regulation".

Great, that can be said for both OK State AND Bama this year. Good, we agree...

BUT, the difference is that Bama lost to #1 LSU, and OU lost to ISU....THIS is the current rebuttle from the media to protect the entitled Bama squad.

Well, remember Cal in 2003? Yeah, that team ended the season with 8 wins and got skull fricked in their bowl game. Why isn't Oklahoma State getting the same treatment today?

One of many articles that detail this travesty of not winning a conference

In case you were wondering, the bleacher report TODAY is perfectly cool with Bama getting the rematch. LOL. What a change in just one year, huh?

Oh, Never Mind. It's all Good. It's Bama!

This is going to be fun updating this post all week.
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 8:52 am
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51135 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:15 am to
U sound mad, bro
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50269 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:17 am to
quote:

U sound mad, bro


Nope. I laugh my arse off. I think it is funny, to be quite honest with you. The standards change almost annually, and they always change when an entitled team needs help.

You honestly think if LSU had lost the "game of the century" at home, with Bama's current schedule, they would be ranked #2?

No. We would be lucky to be top 5 right now. As an LSU fan, you know your place, and your place is to EARN it.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77298 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:19 am to
quote:

U sound mad, bro


but he is correct...
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51135 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:20 am to
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You honestly think if LSU had lost the "game of the century" at home, with Bama's current schedule, they would be ranked #2?


w/ our schedule, we certainy would be #2. But keep banging that no respect drum all you want. Go ahead & throw in an ESPN hates LSU for good measure.
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3431 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:20 am to
quote:

he BCS was originally created to prevent this type of bias for the entitled teams.


Nope, its like new taxes for "the rich." The intention is the veil and the control is the objective. Rich don't get rich by giving their money away... so usually new taxes created by "the rich" only effect those who don't have the best accountants (the upper middle class).

Just like a system like the BCS was created to legitimize the title, but really its to make MORE money for the entitled teams and more so conferences. SEC commish has done a superb job being ahead of the curve for making money for its members, but make no mistake the BCS is only a money grab by the elite.

Well written post until...

quote:

Except now, the media can blame their frickery on the BCS system.


but no hate from me, I enjoyed reading.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50269 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:22 am to
quote:

but he is correct...


Yup. And CFB fans of the "non-entitled" schools will agree with me as well.

For example, if LSU swapped places with Bama this year, ESPN would have focussed yesterday on how Penn State's loss would have "hurt LSU's slim hopes of getting a rematch". Book it. Every matchup on our schedule would have been scrutinzed, at our 34-10 defeat of ARK AT HOME early in the season would have "evened out Bama's accomplishment", not to mention all the injuries ARK had early in the season would have been higlighted to diminish the win.

Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong. LOL.

This shite is predictable as death, taxes, democrats stealing, and bama/auburn paying players.
Posted by Deathrider
Member since Aug 2010
3675 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:23 am to
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Go ahead & throw in an ESPN hates LSU for good measure.


The problem is that this is also true. LSU gets no respect. The OP is also absolutely correct. The media loves to help its favorites. Years ago, it was USC. Now it's Bama.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 9:25 am
Posted by dgries
Metairie
Member since Aug 2011
41 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:25 am to
Great point about how if OU had one loss instead of OSU, they would certainly be in the NCG if they beat OSU. The media loves OU! Remember Skip Bayless earlier this year?
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77298 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:25 am to
quote:

w/ our schedule, we certainy would be #2.



he said with Bama's schedule...not LSU's...
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
9330 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:28 am to
I think the "who are the two best teams" is also a crock. If we all agree LSU and Alabama are the two best teams, then why does it matter what any other team has done? Oklahoma State, Va Tech, Stanford and 50 other teams could be undefeated. If we are just picking who are the two best teams, then records don't matter.

Of course they should matter. We should actually be picking the most deserving. According to the computers, the Big 12 is the strongest conference. Their one loss champ should be in the game.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50269 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:30 am to
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w/ our schedule, we certainy would be #2. But keep banging that no respect drum all you want.


I stated with BAMA's CURRENT SCHEDULE...

quote:

Go ahead & throw in an ESPN hates LSU for good measure


Ok. Whatever. LOL

Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:31 am to
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put them in a title game over a team with an equal record who played an NFL schedule.

Stopped reading when I got here. Absolute nonsense. The SEC then was not the SEC of a few years later. The conference was probably the weakest it's been in the last 20 years.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51135 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:31 am to
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he said with Bama's schedule...not LSU's...


Makes a pretty good arguement. F me for not reading.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50269 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:34 am to
quote:

I think the "who are the two best teams" is also a crock. If we all agree LSU and Alabama are the two best teams, then why does it matter what any other team has done? Oklahoma State, Va Tech, Stanford and 50 other teams could be undefeated. If we are just picking who are the two best teams, then records don't matter.

Of course they should matter. We should actually be picking the most deserving. According to the computers, the Big 12 is the strongest conference. Their one loss champ should be in the game.


I agree with all of this. I just get a kick out of the ever-changing themes brought about by the hypocrites in the sports media.
Posted by dgries
Metairie
Member since Aug 2011
41 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:34 am to
With all of this said, I still want Alabama in the Dome. When we beat them, the media has no choice than to talk about us in the same sentence as 95 Nebraska and 01 Miami.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17667 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:36 am to
I see the hyporcricy, but I'm not too sure it's because of the "entitled teams." I'll buy USC, because that crying-turned-blowjob in 03-04 was ridiculous. But I'm not sure about Alabama. There's plenty national sentiment AGAINST Alabama (Southern, red state, some could say racists, rednecks, small market, etc.) that I don't think they're one of the entitled teams. I've heard most of the analysts say Alabama should be there because no one else should be. Kind of like LSU in 2007 - lesser of all the evils out there.

Now, this is also a product of the "SEC is the best" argument. You'd be hard-pressed to find anybody who disagrees with the SEC being the best. It's this machine that helped LSU get there in 2007 despite two losses. So my point here is that you can argue for Oklahoma State, but don't sit back and tow the SEC line either, because that's mostly what's behind Alabama being #2.
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3431 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:36 am to
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Stopped reading when I got here. Absolute nonsense. The SEC then was not the SEC of a few years later. The conference was probably the weakest it's been in the last 20 years.


LSU won the title in 2003, and The Saban was still the coach (I've taken to calling him "The Saban" kinda like the way it sounds).

SEC was still strong in the East with competitive UGA, UT and UF.

Fans don't think the SEC is strong when Bama's not in the mix. It's kind of a double edge sword with that program. Nobody wants them to be good but they certainly elevate the level of respect for the SEC when they are good.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17667 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:40 am to
And yes, "Best TEAM" vs "Best RESUME" is something that gets flip-flopped all the time. There's tons of hyprocicy in that, and analysts use each argument to his advantage whenever necessary.
Posted by jpbTiger
Tampa FL
Member since Dec 2007
4972 posts
Posted on 11/27/11 at 9:40 am to
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