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re: The job O has done this season is nothing short of outstanding

Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:22 pm to
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The classic O tard narrative. Trash anyone who have to in order to defend


Are you fricking retarded?

You couldn't tell I wasn't being serious. fricking idiot.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:24 pm to
Yeah hiring DL coach who needs a 2.5 Million dollar DC to compensate for the fact that he can’t put a defense on the field himself is great ADing.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 1:26 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:25 pm to
No I think O sucked all of 2017.

Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:26 pm to
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Frankly, this line of rhetoric you've undertaken is very disrespectful to Aranda's talent and what he means to this program. You should be ashamed.


Frankly the shite yall say about O and SE are much worse...I love Aranda but being honest his defense has not performed like everyone thought it would this year. Hell most of our fans really think we need to score in the 40's to beat bama. Is that what we expect the best DC in the country to do with the incredible talent we have one defense?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:31 pm to
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Frankly, this line of rhetoric you've undertaken is very disrespectful to Aranda's talent and what he means to this program. You should be ashamed





You've got no room to point out anyone for disrespectful comments.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:32 pm to
This was a fine line when the defense wasn’t a top 10 scoring defense.

We’ve been very good even after losing our top pass rusher and going games without Phillips.

Aranda has made incredible adjustments to our lack of a Parrish, and we lead the country in interceptions.

He’s by far done the best coaching job of anyone on staff.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:33 pm to
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Frankly the shite yall say about O and SE are much worse...I love Aranda but being honest his defense has not performed like everyone thought it would this year. Hell most of our fans really think we need to score in the 40's to beat bama. Is that what we expect the best DC in the country to do with the incredible talent we have one defense?


Do you believe that any other DC in the country could come in and do a better job than he's doing?

He's not a miracle worker.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:33 pm to
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No I think O sucked all of 2017.


outside of the Troy game and amount we lost by to state how did he suck? I think the Troy game and ND was the only thing that sucked. State was a better team and so was bama
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:36 pm to
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Do you believe that any other DC in the country could come in and do a better job than he's doing?




Yes I believe there are probably 4-5 that could do very well with the defensive talent we have. You don't think there are coaches out there doing more with less talent than we have? To think that would mean you don't think we have much talent.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:37 pm to
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Yes I believe there are probably 4-5 that could do very well with the defensive talent we have. You don't think there are coaches out there doing more with less talent than we have? To think that would mean you don't think we have much talent.


Who are they?

And I'm talking about guys we could actually get.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 1:38 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:39 pm to
I think Shitty coaches and shitty coaching can still win games.

Arkansas, Tennessee, Florida, Ole Miss, A&M, BYU were all TERRIBLE teams last year.

not every game is going to show you how good a coach you are, but losing to most of the semi decent teams we played and squeezing by teams like syracuse and Florida who were shitty teams wasn’t good coaching.
Posted by nvasil1
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:40 pm to
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you disagree?

It has been solid. I'd stop short of impressive. Even Orgeron has called it flat at times and said it needs to improve in the red zone. Both are fair assessments.
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you don't think our schedule has been hard and that we have faced some really good defenses? do you not believe a first year OC, transfer QB, no star rb, inconsistent oline, and young wr's are factors to consider when analyzing how the offense has performed?

Never said any of that, but I know how some of you like to conflate opinions if they aren't overwhelmingly positive.
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Answer me this...what would you consider our defense to be ranked if they were just ranked on talent alone....higher, lower, or the same to what we rank nationally defensively?

I don't know, and I don't care. Yards allowed is one piece of analyzing a defense. LSU is 7th nationally in points allowed, better than all of our opponents except for Mississippi State. So, is the defense putting us in a position to win nearly all of our games? Evidently yes.
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no this argument started bc of the haters and morons thinking our offense should be ranked higher and Ensminger sucks...they refuse to take into account all the factors listed above that he has had to deal with.

And the defense hasn't had to deal with "factors"? They played the same schedule. DL has been unable to engineer much of pass rush, particularly earlier in the season. Chaisson has been out for the year. Phillips was out the one game we lost. I could just as lazily call you a "hater" or a "moron" for refusing to take those things into account.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:41 pm to
O would say Name the 4-5 DCs you thinknwould do as well and also ask yourself how many HCs and OCs do you think could do as well or better than what we’re dping than O or E?
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:44 pm to
Were you a Miles fan?
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:46 pm to
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Who are they?

And I'm talking about guys we could actually get.


how did we get Aranda? you telling me he is the last great defensive mind out there?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:47 pm to
I was but I am going to admit towards the end he wasn’t getting the job done.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 1:48 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78300 posts
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:48 pm to
We offered him a huge pay increase from a school that couldn’t come close to matching.

But there aren’t that many elite DCs at middle tier schools right now.
This post was edited on 11/1/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:49 pm to
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it needs to improve in the red zone.


everybody agrees with this

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some of you like to conflate opinions if they aren't overwhelmingly positive.



I am not one of those
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:51 pm to
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DL has been unable to engineer much of pass rush,


The defense has been pretty conservative....it's funny how you always hear that about offenses but most people don't apply that to defenses. I believe in what Saban preached...you must affect the qb
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:52 pm to
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I was but I am going to admit towards the end he wasn’t getting the job done.




well based on some of your problems with O last year I figured you would have thought Miles sucked.
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