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The game I watched yesterday fell squarely on Chavis's shoulders
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:39 am
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:39 am
Big play, big play, what the hell was that big play at halftime, big play.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:44 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
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what the hell was that big play at halftime, big play
that was Hatcher taking out Mo
not Chavis fault.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:46 am to taf
More disappointed in offense than defense... 

Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:46 am to taf
Offense still didn't perform, but yes, D looked bad.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:48 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
When you play a team like Ar-Kansas, you know heading into the game that they are gonna make some plays. Yes, the defense gave up a few big plays that became TDs. Along the same lines, out red-zone offense, or lack thereof, turned opportunites for TDs into FGs, and you CANNOT kick field goals and beat a good offense on the road, you just cannot do it. We force a turnover, get the ball around the 10 and end up kicking a FG??? That is how football games are lost!
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:53 am to TigerOnTheProwl
tons of blame to go around on this one.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:54 am to TigerOnTheProwl
If it's coaching down to the small details, then yes, Chavis no doubt shares some blame.
Hatcher played stupidly and singlehandedly gave up 14 points. Others on the D pursuing vainly after those plays were trying to clean up Hatcher's frick ups.
Otherwise, the defense put the offense in position to win the game. What the hell else can we expect?
You can't get 3 on those first two possessions of the second half--what if we had scored 7 both times?
Hatcher played stupidly and singlehandedly gave up 14 points. Others on the D pursuing vainly after those plays were trying to clean up Hatcher's frick ups.
Otherwise, the defense put the offense in position to win the game. What the hell else can we expect?
You can't get 3 on those first two possessions of the second half--what if we had scored 7 both times?
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:56 am to TigerTreyjpg
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tons of blame to go around on this one.
that's about right...the arky rb ran all over our defense. our defense may be fast, but they also looked weak.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 9:57 am to taf
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that was Hatcher taking out Mo not Chavis fault.
Pure baloney. We should not give up an 80 yard touchdown pass on the obvious final play because one player runs into another. That's why you play PREVENT with about 4 players defending way back in case something like that happens.
Maybe I could be more generous to Chavis if he hadn't laid an enormous egg against Auburn after allowing North Carolina to almost steal that game. We were about 4 plays away from 7-5.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:15 am to Rex
So its Chavis' fault we couldn't score a TD with the field position in the 3td qtr?
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:18 am to LSUlefty
The BIG problem is Crowton..where Crowton has been, his next year is worst than the one before, check it out...Crowton will be GONE. Thank God...JJ always looks confused, why, after two years of starting, Crowton is the one that must be confused, during the game..
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:19 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
[quote]The game I watched yesterday fell squarely on Hatcher's being the worst safety in FBS.quote]
FIFY
FIFY
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:19 am to Rex
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Pure baloney. We should not give up an 80 yard touchdown pass on the obvious final play because one player runs into another.

Yes, all defensive coordinators should have defensive schemes that will take into account one defensive player taking himself and another defender out of the play with a smashing block.
This game was 1000000% on the offense. You can't score 23 points against quality opponents and expect to win. The defense was tired from having to play nearly the entire first quarter and pretty much every quarter of every game all year, including cupcakes like McNeese.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:19 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
I lost a ton of confidence in Chavis the last two weeks.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:22 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
Overall statistics tell the story.
Our defense is good enough to win the games we should and even some we shouldn't.
However, when you have virtually the worst passing offense statistically in the country and your offense can put up no more than 80 total yards in the second half against Arkansas----your problem is your Offensive Coordinator.
Fire him. Get a QB. And, you have the recipe for a dominating team.
I'm saying this because LSU continually has Top Recruiting classes. If they didn't I would simply say they are doing the best they can with the talent they have.
But, they have superior talent ALL over the field!!!

Our defense is good enough to win the games we should and even some we shouldn't.
However, when you have virtually the worst passing offense statistically in the country and your offense can put up no more than 80 total yards in the second half against Arkansas----your problem is your Offensive Coordinator.
Fire him. Get a QB. And, you have the recipe for a dominating team.
I'm saying this because LSU continually has Top Recruiting classes. If they didn't I would simply say they are doing the best they can with the talent they have.
But, they have superior talent ALL over the field!!!

Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:27 am to Rex
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Pure baloney. We should not give up an 80 yard touchdown pass on the obvious final play because one player runs into another.
That's not what ha-ppened, Hatcher is just the worst safety we have! I'm gonna bet that Miles made Chavis play the seniors or some bullshite like that.
Hatcher is garbage at safety and he showed it in the Ole Miss game too.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:31 am to Rex
Why Chavis was bringing pressure with six second and a whole field to go should worry you guys a bit. Seemed to me that he was more interested in having good yardage stats than actually playing the universally expected prevent defense there.
Your offense was actually not as bad as advertised, Jefferson didn't light the world on fire but he converted on a few broken plays on third down and was pretty efficient throwing the ball. The run game and the red zone offense was the biggest issue for you guys. I was really expecting more power running, we are very fast on defense and have had no trouble with the outside the tackle run all year. The number of points you guys obtained for the yardage you achieved was actually pretty decent, not much of a consolation...but still.
Your offense was actually not as bad as advertised, Jefferson didn't light the world on fire but he converted on a few broken plays on third down and was pretty efficient throwing the ball. The run game and the red zone offense was the biggest issue for you guys. I was really expecting more power running, we are very fast on defense and have had no trouble with the outside the tackle run all year. The number of points you guys obtained for the yardage you achieved was actually pretty decent, not much of a consolation...but still.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:38 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
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Big play, big play, what the hell was that big play at halftime, big play.
This is what is hilarious about this board. Kill the Coaches!! Change the World!! Everyone needs to look at the season as a body of work, then make the assessment. If we micromanage the situation, we'll end up with a mess worse than Bobby Lowder has made of the entire Auburn University system.
On Mallet's three TD Passes, ask yourself this question. When the play started, was the defense in the wrong set, or was the wrong defensive play called? In both cases in the 1st half, the answer was clearly, NO. Hatcher was initially in a position to make a simple tackle, but both times took a horrible angle to knock the crap out of the guy instead of just making the tackle. On the 4th and 3 towards the end of the game, again the defense was in the proper set. Mathieu just bit on the 1st half of the double move and was toasted. The pass was placed in a position where help from a safety would not have helped. It was nothing more than a fade route from the 30 yd line and Arkansas made the better play. It happens.
Everyone needs to understand in every contest there are TWO teams playing. Just because someone scores against LSU does not necessarily mean the coaches F*&$#ed up. Arkansas has a GREAT, experienced team with an excellent QB - maybe not the best in the country, but Mallet certainly ranks in the top 10. CAM Newton is a freak of nature on the ball-field. Although bought and paid for illegally (ha ha), for 12 games now he has proven himself better than everyone he has played. That's why we actually play the game. If not, we'd be 7 and 5 and playing in Memphis in a couple of weeks.
Before fall practice started, general consensus noted three areas of concern: Offensive and Defensive lines and QB. Chavis told us at the outset that we were young and inexperienced at a number of positions on defense but we'll get better as the season goes along. I think now everyone realizes just how critical Sam Monte and Brandon Taylor were to this young defense. The continued offensive ineptitude and lack of getting the talented skill players involved have been, and continue to be the weakness exploited by our opponents. THAT is the responsibility of the offensive position coaches and coordinators. Blame them, not the Cheif.
Look at Arkansas' 1st half stats. 170 of the 256 yards were on two plays. How many 3-5 play stops did LSU have in the 1st half? More than enough to hold the Hogs to a single touchdown. Special teams did their job yet again. For 3 quarters the defense (with the exception of the same player on 2 different plays) did their job. The problem with LSU's performance in this game (as with the Auburn game) was LSU's defense stayed on the field for too long in the 2nd half, gassed by the time the 4th quarter arrived, and was not able to stop Arky's offensive line push late in the game. Blame needs to be put squarely on the shoulders of Croton's "bat shite crazy" play calling and the continued under-performance of Stud's offensive line - NOT defensive schemes. Netting only 6 points with starting position at the 50 or better on three separate possessions is simply unacceptable. LSU's center position again killed them yesterday. Barksdale was soundly beat at least 3 times in the 2nd half alone. The 1st half pocket collapse was coming from the Center and Tackle failures.
Long answer to your statement, but look at what happened again and you might change your mind.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:57 am to ST.TAMMANYTIGER
He is an above average DC. His defenses will keep you in every game.
The problem is when you need that one series or play for your defense to just dominate, his don't.
The problem is when you need that one series or play for your defense to just dominate, his don't.
Posted on 11/28/10 at 10:59 am to prplhze2000
When the offense only generates 1010010 3 and outs... of course you assholes will pin the blame on Chavis.. the D is tired.
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