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re: The future is bright believe it or not
Posted on 9/30/17 at 12:33 pm to sports101
Posted on 9/30/17 at 12:33 pm to sports101
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Having Brandon Harris vs. Myles Brennan is being in the same position in my opinion
You're not making any sense.
You say you're excited about Brennan because it's been a long time since Lsu has been in the position to have the same quarterback for 3 years.
That was literally the case when Brandon Harris was starting games as a freshman.
And before that when Anthony Jennings was starting games as a freshman.
And before that when Jordan Jefferson was starting games as a freshman.
And before that when Jarrett lee was starting games as a freshman.
That's 4 times within the last 10 years Lsu has been in this position. So wtf are you actually talking about?
This post was edited on 9/30/17 at 12:49 pm
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Posted on 9/30/17 at 12:43 pm to sports101
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Brennan will be one of the best quarterbacks we've ever had.
Hoping so, but heard that with Mettenberger....through Harris. LSU has to recruit better at QB. Neither Etling nor MB should be the starter at LSU in 2017.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 12:55 pm to Tiger1988
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Only a year
That's really what your friends are telling you? They're fundraising already? I'm sure you know what that buyout looks like.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:57 pm to Open Your Eyes
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You say you're excited about Brennan because it's been a long time since Lsu has been in the position to have the same quarterback for 3 years.
That was literally the case when Brandon Harris was starting games as a freshman.
And before that when Anthony Jennings was starting games as a freshman.
And before that when Jordan Jefferson was starting games as a freshman.
And before that when Jarrett lee was starting games as a freshman.
That's 4 times within the last 10 years Lsu has been in this position. So wtf are you actually talking about
Really not sure what's so hard to understand. I don't think we've had a qb of this caliber as a freshman in a while.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 2:08 pm to sports101
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by the end of the year the fans will be very excited about next year
I will get back to you at the end of the Troy game. If we don't drill them, there will be NO excitement this year for LSU football.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 2:31 pm to whitefoot
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That's really what your friends are telling you? They're fundraising already? I'm sure you know what that buyout looks like.
The buy out is not shite for the first 2. The last one is about 8. The others combined will be about 10 or so. We are talking 20 total to clean all of them out which isn't what I'm takling about or would suggest because there are good coaches and recruiters on that staff.
Keep in mind that good ole Les is still making $ off of the university and nobody is going to hire him.
What I would do is pay them all off in a settlement. Most of those contracts have give me X a year unless I find another job. Get in a room and make it right, then move on.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 2:33 pm to sports101
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Really not sure what's so hard to understand. I don't think we've had a qb of this caliber as a freshman in a while.
What's hard to understand is your apparent lack of understanding of the English language.
You: Brennan will be the one of the best ever at Lsu.
Other guy: Lol you have no way of knowing this.
You: You're right, I don't. But it's been a long time since Lsu has been in position to have a qb for at least 3 years.
Me: what about Brandon Harris?
You: Harris vs Brennan is the same
Me: here are 4 examples in the last 10 years of Lsu being in this exact position with a quarterback.
Either you're a moron or you're not saying whatever it is you think you're trying to say.
If you're trying to say Lsu hasn't been in the position to have the same quarterback for at least 3 years, well you're a moron because that's objectively false.
If you're trying something about how good Brennan is, we'll you're a moron because you've already admitted in this thread that you don't know that, and you've also said in this thread that having Harris vs having Brennan is the same.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 2:48 pm to Open Your Eyes
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If you're trying something about how good Brennan is, we'll you're a moron because you've already admitted in this thread that you don't know that, and you've also said in this thread that having Harris vs having Brennan is the same.
I was saying Harris and Brennan are not on the same level. Maybe I had a typo. Doesn't matter, if you were smart enough you would have picked up on it without me walking you thru it like a child.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 2:51 pm to DmitriKaramazov
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If the future is bright, why is next year's recruiting class so pedestrian?
We are top 15. We are recruiting to address our needs. And it’s still months away from signing day. Anything can happen. Our main concern is OL and DL, not the ranking of our class.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 3:06 pm to sports101
I may be mistaken here but, I think what is being said here is that Brennan is an accomplished pocket passing gunslinger who shows a high football iq. That's what he has going for him.
Under Miles (well known for his "square peg, round hole") systems, Brennan would have been put on the field as a dual threat and not with a pro style approach. That (and hookers and the bag man) is exactly why Shea Patterson didn't come to LSU.
The distinct possibility remains, that a new offensive coordinator may put a pro style qb in a pro style system, or a true spread. Miles took DTQBs and tried running them in a ground and pound pro set, where a true pro style guy (see success with Mett under center) would excel.
The debate still remains open as to whether it's better to have dual threat guys or pro style guys in the lineup against mighty Alabama. I'm not going there but there's an upside to having both Brennan and Narcisse waiting in the ranks. If the team ever finds their identity, the right quarterback is already there either way.
Under Miles (well known for his "square peg, round hole") systems, Brennan would have been put on the field as a dual threat and not with a pro style approach. That (and hookers and the bag man) is exactly why Shea Patterson didn't come to LSU.
The distinct possibility remains, that a new offensive coordinator may put a pro style qb in a pro style system, or a true spread. Miles took DTQBs and tried running them in a ground and pound pro set, where a true pro style guy (see success with Mett under center) would excel.
The debate still remains open as to whether it's better to have dual threat guys or pro style guys in the lineup against mighty Alabama. I'm not going there but there's an upside to having both Brennan and Narcisse waiting in the ranks. If the team ever finds their identity, the right quarterback is already there either way.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 3:08 pm to Tiger1988
I know about the buyouts. I posted this in another thread.
I'm asking if you and your friends are fundraising already and what your coffers are looking like.
Keep dreaming if you think you're going to get Orgeron or Miles to agree you a settlement for less. The only reduction you're getting is O's salary as someone's d line coach.
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Buyout after next season is $8 million, plus we'll still owe Miles about $6 million. I don't know what kind of guarantees the assistant coaches have. Add to that the new coach's salary and that's looking like $20+ million, PLUS whatever new assistants get hired. Sorry, but that math makes me think Orgeron is here for a while.
Here are the numbers after 2019:
Orgeron $6 million
Miles remaining $4.5 million
Slightly more palatable
After 2020:
Orgeron 4.5
Miles 3
Probably doable
I'm asking if you and your friends are fundraising already and what your coffers are looking like.
Keep dreaming if you think you're going to get Orgeron or Miles to agree you a settlement for less. The only reduction you're getting is O's salary as someone's d line coach.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 3:20 pm to sports101
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I was saying Harris and Brennan are not on the same level. Maybe I had a typo. Doesn't matter
Doesn't matter? You literally typed the exact opposite of what you claim you were saying.
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if you were smart enough you would have picked up on it without me walking you thru it like a child.
Says the guy contradicting himself in his own posts. Are we to assume it's opposite day when reading your posts from now on?
Maybe you should try getting your fingers and your mouth on the same page
Posted on 9/30/17 at 3:21 pm to YouAre8Up
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The offense has been simplified twice now to a basic high school scheme. How is this offense a "radical change" again? Canada's offense is pre-snap motion. That's not radical wither.
In retrospect, we should have all seen this coming. The personnel we have on offense simply isn't sufficient to have a passing attack. Les Miles left us with players suited his scheme (pounding the ball) and ill suited to passing. At the end of 2016 we had our choice of Etling or Harris, and the consensus is that neither was of the caliber we need. The departures of Diarse and Quinn after the 2015 season and Dupre after the 2016 season depleted our receiver corp of experienced upper classmen. We started the year with only one WR (Chark) with any significant game experience. The offensive line is composed of guards playing every position. Mobility and footwork was sacrificed for power. Pass blocking is not their strength and never will be. With all of these issues coming in, there is no coach on the planet that would be able to make a passing game work for us. And look at what happened, Canada, with a reputation for adapting his scheme to his players, started off pounding the ball and hardly throwing it.
We have a similar problem on defense. We are still transitioning from a 4-3 to a 3-4. At the end of 2016 we still didn't have the LBs we need or that big NT to anchor the front of the D.
The only way to fix this is to recruit the personnel we need and develop them, which could take a couple years. So the most important quality we need in our HC right now is recruiting, and that is Orgeron's strength. He may not be the coach everyone wanted, but he's the coach we need. I would rather sacrifice a year or two making this transition than continue with what we've been doing. I have no idea if CEO will be able to make things work once we have the players we need, but as far as I'm concerned he's got at least two years to work on it. Worst case scenario, our next coach will have the players needed to run a passing offense.
Posted on 9/30/17 at 3:46 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Maybe you should try getting your fingers and your mouth on the same page
Calm down man! Why are you so angry in all of your posts? It's just a message board. I hope things turn around for you
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