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re: The following QB's had worse Efficiency ratings than JJ
Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:41 pm to TigerFan55555
Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:41 pm to TigerFan55555
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um...lets see here...if your LSU who always runs the ball and you have a 1000 yard rusher returning with a young inexperienced QB, and people have been playing them close by stacking the box causing them to struggle to run the ball you um...put 8 men in the box....ok...ok...let me count...11 guys on the field ...11-8 = 3....um...ok...let me find 3 players that usually cover guys...there's um...2 corners....and whats that last guys name...i think its called a safety...
and how long have you watched football...cause if you say a long time...you would be really stupid..
We weren't struggling running the ball bc people were stacking the box.
God, you're stupid. We were struggling running the ball bc Hebert got overpowered, Barksdale didn't give a shite, we had no blocking TE, no blocking FB, rudimentary scheme, etc.
We also sucked running the ball against Auburn (Remember?), yet they were stupid enough to continue to try to stop our running game, even as we pierced them through the air.
OTHER TEAMS WEREN'T DOING THAT.
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Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:42 pm to ColtsTigers
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Are Manning, Brees, Brady, Rivers, Warner, Palmer, McNabb, and Favre not the division leaders in the NFL??? How the hell can you argue that those aren't some of the best QBs in the league?
so, by your standards of JJ we should be playing for the title? since all the fault rest on the playcalling, o-line, recievers, backs...etc..
Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:44 pm to TigerFan55555
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your blaming the play calling, (which is bad) but the play calling is affected by JJ's play...Im not giving any of them a free pass...the play calling, the line, JJ, recievers, RB's all are at fault for something, but you obviously want to blame everyone else but JJ...Fact is play calling wouldnt have been so vanilla had we have a QB that didnt have so many weaknesses...
Guess you never thought of that with all your football wisdom...
I've never said JJ was great. I've said that the difference btw us and other top teams is more coaching, running game, and pass protection than it is the quarterback.
And I never said RBs either. There is a huge difference btw saying the running game sucks, and blaming the RBs. Charles Scott is a good RB, he just had shitty blocking.
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
This post was edited on 12/17/09 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:45 pm to ColtsTigers
just stop responding.
let him keep talking to himself in this thread.
let him keep talking to himself in this thread.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:47 pm to ColtsTigers
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We weren't struggling running the ball bc people were stacking the box
um...do you have one of those computers with the little dimples on each key to know what your typing? b/c you must be blind...EVERYONE stacked the box against us...why in the frick do you think we were in the spread every other damn play...we were trying to spread them out...WE JUST DIDNT RUN FROM THE SPREAD...if you would have said that I would have givin you a little credit...but since you didnt
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even as we pierced them through the air.
200 yards is piercing???? damn, what do you call Drew Brees then?
Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:50 pm to TigerFan55555
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we obviously know he can throw a comeback b/c we threw them all year...now how many times did JJ hit Tolliver in stride on a Deep fade?...thats what I thought...thats why they stacked 8 in the box running cover 3, (10 yards off the ball) guess where? right where a hitch would go...because they didnt respect the deep ball!!! b/c JJ couldnt throw it!!!
We didn't throw any fades until the Auburn game, despite the fact that Georgia had 5'8" CBs. It was laughably stupid.
We finally start calling them against Auburn, and what do you know, Jefferson can throw them.
Umm, he hit deep balls to Randle against Ole Miss, he hit deep balls to Lafell against both Arky and Georgia Tech last year, he hit a fade for a TD to Toliver against Ole Miss last year, he hit passes downfield against Bama this year (one of which was called back bc Miles can't teach this team how to lineup correctly).
Yes, he misses on some 7 step throws 50 yards downfield against ULL. But again, why is Crowton calling plays downfield like he has Drew Brees? Why does he run all of these 4 WR sets and deep drops, even though he has awful pass protection and he isn't Drew Brees.
When he throws deep off of short drops, he is fine. Jefferson's weakness is his pocket awareness. And he also lost confidence by the Arky game due to all the crap he went through. He isn't as good reading the field like someone like McCoy. He is still learning the game and probably wasn't ready for all the intracies of Crowton's ridiculous offense (just as Shepard, Randle, Ford, and basically every other young player has struggled according to Tigerbait) But throwing the ball is NOT a weakness of his, by college QB standards. He has a better arm than most QBs, better size, and his accuracy is adequate.
This post was edited on 12/17/09 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:52 pm to ColtsTigers
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ColtsTigers
just let it go
This post was edited on 12/17/09 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:53 pm to ColtsTigers
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I've never said JJ was great. I've said that the difference btw us and other top teams is more coaching, running game, and pass protection than it is the quarterback.
have you ever studied the terms Cause and Effect?
why do you think this argument has gone on for so long...Cause and effect...I simply stated that the CAUSE is JJ, now there are many other factors of why we are ranked 107th in o.. I would break them down as such
33% JJ, 32% playcalling, 15% o-line, 20% Miles (for getting outcoached),
JJ effects play calling, which effects what the defense does to an o-line, and the 20% is just cause I dont like miles...i still have my crayons...or should i load a powerpoint?
Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:55 pm to TigerFan55555
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um...do you have one of those computers with the little dimples on each key to know what your typing? b/c you must be blind...EVERYONE stacked the box against us...why in the frick do you think we were in the spread every other damn play...we were trying to spread them out...WE JUST DIDNT RUN FROM THE SPREAD...if you would have said that I would have givin you a little credit...but since you didnt
I just told you that Florida, Bama, Ole Miss and others sure as hell didn't stack the box against us.
The fact that you said Shepard knew what he was doing out there shows you were watching a different game than everyone else in this thread.
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200 yards is piercing???? damn, what do you call Drew Brees then?
Blowing a team out is you moron.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:55 pm to TheDoc
quote:This.
just let it go
When someone gets mad at you for bringing demonstrable facts like statistics and numbers into the argument. . .well at that point it is just best to walk away. Nothing more you can do at that point. . .
I've already requested an anchor for this thread.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:57 pm to TigerFan55555
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have you ever studied the terms Cause and Effect?
why do you think this argument has gone on for so long...Cause and effect...I simply stated that the CAUSE is JJ, now there are many other factors of why we are ranked 107th in o.. I would break them down as such
33% JJ, 32% playcalling, 15% o-line, 20% Miles (for getting outcoached),
JJ effects play calling, which effects what the defense does to an o-line, and the 20% is just cause I dont like miles...i still have my crayons...or should i load a powerpoint?
And I've said that you are an idiot. LOL at you acting like teams stacked the run against LSU's shitty running game more than they do against Bama, Florida, TCU, etc.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:57 pm to ColtsTigers
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ColtsTigers
no more responding
seriously
Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:58 pm to TheDoc
My bad guys, I'm done here. I'll do everyone a favor and let this thread die.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:58 pm to ColtsTigers
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Umm, he hit deep balls to Randle against Ole Miss, he hit deep balls to Lafell against both Arky and Georgia Tech last year, he hit a fade for a TD to Toliver against Ole Miss last year, he hit passes downfield against Bama this year (one of which was called back bc Miles can't teach this team how to lineup correctly).
dont remember any of them...but I'm pretty sure he missed the deep throws about 10 times more than he completed them...hence (no respect from other DC's)
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He has a better arm than most QBs,
I think he has good velocity...thats about it...
Posted on 12/17/09 at 5:59 pm to ColtsTigers
I WIN!!!!! woo hoo!!! 
Posted on 12/17/09 at 6:03 pm to TigerFan55555
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dont remember any of them...
No, I win bc that statement by itself shows you are a clueless frick.
Posted on 12/17/09 at 6:22 pm to ColtsTigers
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No, I win bc that statement by itself
says that it couldnt have happen as often as you said it did...
is actually the right way it should have been put..
I WIN!!!
This post was edited on 12/17/09 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 12/18/09 at 1:33 pm to TigerFan55555
see this is why you have no credibilty. Its a major major major misconception that teams stacked the box against us. No team besides auburn consistantly stacked the box. Every team handle our oline and running game with a conventional 7 man front. If you actually played football and knew what to look for pre snap you would know this. Actually through out the year this is one of the ways i've been able to tell if someone knew what they were talking about as far as our run game. You get idiots on here saying thet the other teams stacked the box and jj still couldn't throw it, which is complete and utter bullshite. You ,tiger5555 are an idiot. I will respond no more to anything you post. NO TEAM CONSTANTLY OR EVEN CONSISTANTLY STACKED THE BOX AGAINST US. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO
This post was edited on 12/18/09 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 12/18/09 at 1:38 pm to PRIDGENTIGER
and here we go again...
just let him keep posting and look stupid.
he's really good at it.
just let him keep posting and look stupid.
he's really good at it.
Posted on 12/18/09 at 1:51 pm to TheDoc
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