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re: The excuses from last year's LSU/FSU game

Posted on 8/29/23 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by Oneforthemoney
New Iberia, La
Member since Dec 2013
1796 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 3:00 pm to
Lsu offense not having a lot of yards. You can attribute some of that to players playing first game together for first time with all new coaches coaching together and players for first time.

Same thing can be said with defense and having zero depth on d line with d line getting worn out and offense not being able to get off the field. IN SPITE of ALL that, they were a blocked extra point away from sending game into overtime.

Now, tell us you don’t follow lsu football without telling us you don’t follow lsu football .
Posted by Frogman93
Member since Jul 2021
1569 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 3:37 pm to
End of the 1st: LSU 3 FSU 0
End of the 2nd: LSU 3 FSU 7
End of the 3rd: LSU 10 FSU 17
End of Regulation: LSU 23 FSU 24
Please tell me again how it wasn’t “really close”
Jesus man. LSU played horribly and still could’ve beaten y’all. To say anything else is ignorant
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68354 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 3:57 pm to
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FSU gained a grand total of 3 minutes for BOTH the ensuing drives after the muffs. 2:05 after the first muff, and :55 after the second muff. You make it sound like FSU chewed up 15 minutes.

And again, zero points.

To say the two muffs were the difference in the game is just blaming something that appears convenient, but it's not the reality of why LSU lost.




You completely cut off the fact (deliberately i presume) we would have had the ball at our own 16 with over 3 minutes left in the 1st half instead we ended up getting the ball at our own 8 with a minute left and THAT is a huge difference.

Again, we could have driven down and potentially gotten points if we didnt muff the punt having that much time. The fact FSU didnt score is irrelevant to the fact getting the ball with 3+ minutes in your own territory in a half left is a lot different approach offensively than inside your own 10 yard with a minute left. Thats a completely lost possession for us.

I also didnt say these were the ONLY reasons we lost, it was part of it, but I said special teams as a WHOLE were the reason we lost. We lost by 1 point and had 2 muffed punts a blocked XPA and a blocked chip shot FG. That's 4 points we basically gave away because we didnt block someone twice and at least a true possession we could have had all due to special teams mishaps in a 1 point game along with the lost time there.
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 4:11 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68354 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 4:07 pm to
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On both LSU misses, FSU made great plays and BLOCKED them


We let a guy through UNBLOCKED from the exact same area (on left side) in both cases, that's on us. That's a breakdown of our special teams blocking scheme.

You dont have XPA/chip shot FGs blocked almost ever due to a player going out of his way to block it because the kick gets off so quickly, it's not like in long FGs that require lower launch trajectory and longer lead up time to kick for more power sometimes. These are quick kicks with high launch angles, the only reason these ever get blocked is because you just left a dude unblocked basically or the kicker royally screws up and kicks it way too low for now reason.

We had fundamental issues with our special teams we did NOT get to iron out with a tune up game unfortunately. Our special teams coach got canned after the season and the FSU game was a large part of the reason why. He simply did not have the guys/blocking scheme right for a game setting in game 1. There's zero reason you should ever have an XPA blocked nor a chip shot FG. IT's such a quick high angle kick it literally takes missing a block entirely for a block to happen which comes down to your blocking assignments/scheme.

FSU did nothing special to block either of those kicks. Any team in america blocks those kicks because we literally let a guy through unblocked in both cases. And it was some gunner on the outside, it was a guy inside our most outside blocker in both cases giving them good angles to get to the kick.
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 4:12 pm
Posted by Oneforthemoney
New Iberia, La
Member since Dec 2013
1796 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 5:56 pm to
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Seeing it as "they only lost by 1" is extremely narrowminded because the stats of the game reflect otherwise.


5. Auburn ran six offensive plays in the fourth quarter for 2 yards.

6. Auburn only had the ball for 3:04 in the fourth quarter and still overcame a 14-point deficit.

Auburn’s offense went 3-and-out twice in the fourth quarter. Those two yards of offense went away on the game-ending kneel following the final interception, so it officially had zero yards of total offense in the final frame.

These next few numbers are going to show just how little Auburn did on offense in this win.

7. Auburn went 0-for-8 on third downs after the first quarter.

8. Auburn had only one first down after the second quarter.

9. Auburn had five more points (21) in the second half than it had total yards (16).

10. Looking for a spark, Auburn benched quarterback Patrick Nix during the game for Dameyune Craig, who went 1-for-4 passing for 8 yards.

In 1997, Craig would set the Auburn single-season records — that still stand to this day — for passing yards and pass attempts. But he was still a long way from those free-wheeling days in this matchup, when the redshirt freshman couldn’t make much of a difference for a struggling offense.

The lsu vs auburn pick 6 game says hello.

LINK
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 5:58 pm
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32456 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by Central Tiger
Louisiana
Member since May 2006
2660 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 6:08 pm to
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Ok . See you after the game .


Not if LSU wins. He’ll do the same thing he did last year, wait until the outcome and then post shite. If LSU beats FSU he’ll be nowhere to be found under this current screen name.
This post was edited on 8/29/23 at 6:09 pm
Posted by Trevholden
Member since Sep 2022
40 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:44 am to
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You completely cut off the fact (deliberately i presume) we would have had the ball at our own 16 with over 3 minutes left in the 1st half instead we ended up getting the ball at our own 8 with a minute left and THAT is a huge difference.

Again, we could have driven down and potentially gotten points if we didnt muff the punt having that much time. The fact FSU didnt score is irrelevant to the fact getting the ball with 3+ minutes in your own territory in a half left is a lot different approach offensively than inside your own 10 yard with a minute left. Thats a completely lost possession for us.


That's fine, but again, this is a "could've". Speculating what could've happened is something everyone does, but it doesn't mean it should've or would've happened. And it definitely doesn't prove anything about LSU being better or that they deserved to win the game.

What about FSU's mistakes? Didn't they make mistakes too? Didn't they get called for 7 penalties to LSU's 4? Didn't they miss blocking assignments, whiff on some tackles on key plays, and have drops like LSU? Didn't they fumble the ball at LSU's 1 yard line? And wasn't that fumble completely unforced? Wouldn't you say FSU punching it in from the 1 is a much more legit "shoulda/woulda" than LSU punching it in from 84 yards away from their own 16? Or 50+ yards away from FG range for the LSU kicker that, as someone pointed out earlier, was experiencing trajectory problems even on chip shots? Presuming any kind of score there is silly.

The bottom line is, both teams screwed up at various points, but FSU was the better team for much more of the game than LSU was.
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 8:51 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84192 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 8:54 am to
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but FSU was the better team for much more of the game than LSU was.

And yet you still barely won.

Guess our best is just significantly better than your best. Too bad y'all don't get a tuneup game this year.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56396 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 2:41 pm to
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The bottom line is, both teams screwed up at various points, but FSU was the better team for much more of the game than LSU was.

Which brings us back to LSU being under a new staff, with a depleted roster. Yalls claim to fame is you are essentially the same roster as last year. Those players didnt get a whole lot better. LSU by 13
Posted by Oneforthemoney
New Iberia, La
Member since Dec 2013
1796 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:54 am to
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quote: The bad news: the game was not as close as the score indicated


So basically, you have a fresh college graduate just out of college, first day on the job. He competes against a veteran with 20 yrs on same job and college graduate makes a shite load of mistakes on his first day and almost performs better than veteran does on his first day on the job. That is basically what happened. So after a year of experience on the job, what do you think the college graduate is going to do when competing with veteran after a year on job when he almost outperformed him first day on the job? That is an example of the reality that happened last year and a glimpse into what is going to happen this year.
This post was edited on 8/31/23 at 7:55 am
Posted by Oneforthemoney
New Iberia, La
Member since Dec 2013
1796 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 7:57 am to
Lsu has better talent on the team and is a better team than FSU. Why do you think fsu has so many redshirt jrs and srs? Because those players aren’t good enough to play in the nfl, otherwise they would be there already.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11651 posts
Posted on 8/31/23 at 8:09 am to
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Trevholden

I assume, if FL State loses, that you'll be perfectly willing to come back and take your medicine... right?
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