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re: The difference I see between Ed and Les

Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:48 am to
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14731 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:48 am to
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Les Miles is Larry Coker. If les miles followed Dinardo he would have been fired in 3 years


Not even close. Undefeated 2011 regular season. We’re NC and considered one of greatest teams of all time if they don’t give Bama a do-over.
Posted by TigahinFL
Member since Oct 2016
227 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 11:06 am to
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Did you know Miles had to be talked into getting T Holiday? Miles did not want him.


I heard bits and pieces about it, if I remember correctly he was solely focused on getting B. Brown despite what LP told him.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 11:07 am
Posted by MichaelTTiger21
Member since Oct 2018
129 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 11:58 am to
Not shitting on miles at all. I will always have the utmost respect for the man. I think he's a wonderful human being. Just pointing out that I thought the staff now is doing a better job at developing talent.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:01 pm to


Yea if that makes your feels better buddy.
Posted by MichaelTTiger21
Member since Oct 2018
129 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:05 pm to
Justin Jefferson. CEH
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84957 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:07 pm to
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With CEO, these underrated and mid level recruits are now superstars in college football, 2 star and 3star guys are balling out.


Les deserves a ton of criticism for failing to adapt/overcome on the offensive side of the ball, but this is simply hogwash.

We've always had underrated guys ball out under each staff.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32453 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:17 pm to
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We had national title caliber talent on alot of his teams, but he mismanaged them and we underachieved big-time. huge difference between miles and O.


Miles certainly cost us one national championship (2011), and some could make the argument that if he could've recruited and developed a good QB, and changed the offense, we could have had another one as well with Jarvis and OBJ as juniors.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32453 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Miles was an arrogant pig headed fool. He wasn't a dumb man but let his arrogance of trying to show the fanbase/ elite opposing teams his way was good enough lead him out the door

Remember when he actually had the gall to say "this is my team", (as if the last 100 years of LSU football and it's fans don't matter) and "we will block out the noise on the perimeter", (meaning fans being unhappy, as if we are nothing to him). Meanwhile the fricking fans paid your salary Les. In the end, his own arrogance did him in.
Posted by cj2002
louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2027 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 9:41 am to
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But never think the low expectations going into last season were at the feet of anyone but him.


Context matters. The roster management by Miles caused serious depth issues at certain positions. I never felt said low expectations were of his own doing. When you lose a D lineman in the Miss State game and the coaches are looking at each other because they don't know who is going in next was a problem created before he was the HC.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:03 am to
and even with all that in 2013 we still finished only 7th in the SEC in total offense
Posted by MudIslandTiger
Germantown, TN
Member since Dec 2016
120 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:11 am to
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LOL, Is that true?


How Chase chose the Tigers

I know all coaches have recruiting misses but we don't have one of the best wideouts in our history if Les is still the coach.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50319 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:17 am to
This is true. Les Miles NEVER developed NFL talent while here.

That decade or so where he had the most players in the NFL never happened.

All those Juniors that developed quickly and left for the NFL never happened either.

None of it.

Most wins in LSU history for a HC?

That didn't happen either.

Posted by MudIslandTiger
Germantown, TN
Member since Dec 2016
120 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:22 am to
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Not sure how anyone could actually think this being he got mettenberger just 2 years before his firing.

Extremely similar situations


We landed Mett after the 2010 season. He was holding a clipboard during 21-0 watching JJ play like garbage.

Mett GRADUATED 3 years before Les was fired. Not at all relevant to getting Joe in 2018. Joe wouldn't have sniffed LSU with Les being the coach
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29481 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:46 am to
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I'm not sure why we still have Miles apologists on this board.
It’s mind boggling. Yes, Les won us a NC (with 2 loses) and had some good years, but he squandered more talent than any coach in America. No doubt.

Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29481 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:07 am to
Unfrickingbelievable.
quote:

Early in his recruitment, LSU coach Les Miles asked Chase if he’d like to be a Tiger. A Tigers defensive back, that is.

Chase was flabbergasted.

“That was unheard of. Out of every offer I had, no coach had mentioned playing DB,” Chase said. “To sit there and listen to two coaches say that I’m going to move to defense — I don’t even have any film on defense. I don’t know if I can backpedal. I was in total shock that someone would tell me to play defense and not know what I could do on defense. I don’t even know what I can do on defense.”
Typical Les Miles.
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13760 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:13 am to
Les has this team lose to Texas, Florida, auburn, Alabama, and possibly A&M.

Someone tell me I’m wrong

ETA: this team doesn’t have joe burrow with Les here
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 11:14 am
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