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re: The Big Eye Doesn’t Lie

Posted on 11/9/09 at 7:47 am to
Posted by JustSmokin
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 7:47 am to
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so little about the spot of the ball on the 3rd play from scrimmage

If JJ runs harder, that wouldn't have been an issue. He has a bad habit of turning away from contact right before he gets hit. He should have easily had that first down.
Posted by lashinala
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 7:51 am to
By watching the video, he did. Just didn't get the spot.
Posted by Born to be a Tiger
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 7:56 am to
I think what he is trying to say is that both Florida and Bama were given bye weeks before playing their toughest SEC game before the CCG. LSU #1 hurdle to both teams being undefeted. The SEC office with the halp of the zebra's did their job. So now we should make sure they have no jods next year. Keep up the heat I'm sure this will follow the NBA ref scandle. Where most said they were crazy suggestion a ref could have the power to change the game for money.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9162 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 8:06 am to
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By watching the video

Watch the video again and see if he doesn't brace for the hit, thus giving up a yard or two. When it's going to be close, stick your damn head down and run over someone. Or at the very least, dive forward.

He made it easy for the ref to give him a bad spot.
Posted by Meatball
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 8:12 am to
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Jarret Lee wasn't going to lead some 4th quarter miracle even had that play been ruled an interception


I don't think anyone on this board is arguing that LSU would have gone down the field and scored had it been ruled an intercption. The fact is that we will never know because the refs made sure that LSU didn't get the opportunity.
Posted by fjhjr08
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 8:13 am to
Good article. Still cant quite get behind the conspiracy theory. It still seems like incompetent officials to me. Your explanation of SEC history was very helpful. By the way, How do they find and more importantly vett and train these guys to be refs? What are the qualifications required? That might prove to be an intersting article. Really liked the idea of using 30k in fines for eye exams. Let's throw in a few pairs of eye glasses while we are at it.
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 8:16 am
Posted by NC2007
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 8:16 am to
To all the Bama fans - we are not saying we would have score with 5 mins left in the game, but what we are saying is we (LSU) would have liked the chance/opportunity to try - something the players earned. Sure we made false starts and other mistakes, but so did Bama, especially the poor decision by McElroy to throw the ball in PPeterson direction. What I hope many understand is that the opportunity to win the game at the end was taken away and with all of our so called mistakes, we still had a chance...
Posted by prplhze2000
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 8:19 am to
This is a pitiful column. First you make a blanket accusation against the SEC. Ok, fine, make the charge. Now how about backing it up. You just mention several bad calls in a game and an eye-gouging incident that could've been missed by an official.

Why don't you do some actual journalism or fact-checking if you're going to write this crap. Why don't you start pulling records and checking the number of penalties called against each school. in SEC games v. their opponents. You know, some actual statistical analysis? Like in X number of games Bama and Florida only average X number of penalties yet their opponents average Y number of penalties. Would help even more if you showed how little penalized teams suddenly saw the yellow flag epidemic whenever they played Bama or Florida.

I hope Chicken didn't pay you for this because the only reason people are reading this column is because the name Chris Warner is on it as if it gives the column some special authority because the column itself sucks.
Posted by lashinala
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 8:25 am to
Most here in Bama know this already. There's already a lot who say the win was kind of 'tainted' and some who question why every ticky tack call goes UA's way consistently. This is probably the worse case scenario for both teams in a way. Kind of like repeatedly hearing last year that Bama was 'unbeatened and untied' going into the Sugar bowl....the writing was on the wall after they went to OT with LSU. and that was with Lee. If Bama loses to UF in the SEC championship, they should have to play LSU in the Sugar Bowl. Now that would be a game worth watching.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 8:32 am to
Nice work! Makes me feel better.
Posted by LSUownsSEC
OutOfTheArea
Member since May 2008
3178 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 8:52 am to
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And thats where your wrong. HOW can the stats prove it in a game where the refs were biased? IF all the calls were correct and all the right penalties called, the STATS, would be A LOT DIFFERENT. And you might have been looking at an LSU victory and saying they deserved to win. Your logic of blaming the refs and then saying the STATS proved UA had a better game is just IDIOTOTIC. Am I the only one with common sense around here? Good Lord.




excellent post, I just don't have the time to read through all of these threads but I did find that this (yours) this Mon. AM. But, Common Sense went out the window years ago! Just look around you when you are away from home, pay attention to the people?

and
Posted by toratiger
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 8:53 am to
Good write.But if some calls would have been made correctly,maybe the stats would not be so one sided,as the call were.The ref's hurt at least 3 of LSU's drives.
Posted by Doucet09
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 8:54 am to
Good Stuff....
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:00 am to
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The conference office is in Birmingham, Alabama. Is it fair to assume that there could be an embedded bias stemming from geography? It is certainly is plausible


been saying this for years. Any time Bama or Tenn has a chance at a title run, look the F out for shady calls and it seems like it has happened for as long as i can remember. The SEC truly is a redneck club of dimwitted cronies. Unfortunately, football powers LSU and FL are too far removed geographically and culturally from the epicenter of this corruption, and historically don't get to reap the same benefits.

this year FL got the breaks against Ark, but let's see what happens when FL and Bama face off.
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 9:00 am
Posted by JawjaTigah
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Member since Sep 2003
22896 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:05 am to
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HOW can the stats prove it in a game where the refs were biased? IF all the calls were correct and all the right penalties called, the STATS, would be A LOT DIFFERENT. And you might have been looking at an LSU victory and saying they deserved to win. Your logic of blaming the refs and then saying the STATS proved UA had a better game is just IDIOTIC.
A very good point. I think both teams are filled with excellent players. I believe (even after venting for a day and a half - that is the purpose of the Rant, right?) that Coach Miles and Coach Chavis had LSU totally prepared to leave Tuscaloosa with a win and for 3 quarters it looked like that would possibly happen. Then, even after a game filled with nick-nack bad calls and no-calls that favored Alabama, the refs struck the dirty bomb and refused to allow an obvious interception - one the would likely have turned game momentum around in LSU's favor and could very well have ended in an LSU drive and score in the end zone. No, Alabama was not the better team. There were great plays and players on both sides. But the Refs left their indelible stamp on the whole thing, and the smoking ruins of a game with lots of promise now stinks to high heaven.
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 9:06 am
Posted by el tigre
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Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:07 am to
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I believe (even after venting for a day and a half - that is the purpose of the Rant, right?) that Coach Miles and Coach Chavis had LSU totally prepared to leave Tuscaloosa with a win and for 3 quarters it looked like that would possibly happen


right. Outside of the 2 point decision i can't complain about a single thing. We had a great gameplan on both sides of the ball, and were positioned to perhaps pull away as Scott was finding a groove and we were going in for another score.

That's what makes it all the more frustrating.
Posted by LSUownsSEC
OutOfTheArea
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:07 am to
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He made it easy for the ref to give him a bad spot


i agree that JJ does seem timid when it comes to getting hit at times. who knows, that may be a coaches decision and then again it may be him

but I did see some favorable spots going the other way during that game or did we watch the same game? Oh BTW, I do not drink during game time and I rarely drink at my age these days anyway. What about the cheap penalty of running into the kicker, review it please? That was a great selling job if there was one!
Posted by tigercavor
Member since Sep 2006
1816 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:08 am to
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scheduling to make sure that Florida and Bama go undefeated


He may be referring to the fact that both bama and florida had byes the week before they played LSU.
Posted by el tigre
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Member since Sep 2003
49712 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:12 am to
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What about the cheap penalty of running into the kicker, review it please? That was a great selling job if there was one!


think that was a good call. It was just the 5 yarder, and we did make contact.
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:14 am to
I am a little worried how bama became a better team. They became a better team by running a pro-style free agent recruiting style. Saban recruited an ABSURD amount of kids over the 25 limit and let the bad ones get weeded out. A rule had to be put into place to stop this.
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