re: The BCS vs Playoff Debate

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. Perfection in life and sports is simply not possible. Pursuit of that perfection is a worthy endeavor, however.

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if we had a perfect system the champ would be announced before bowls

I can think of exactly one "great" OOC game from last year--Ohio State and USC. Are we really arguing OOC games--they're basically nonexistent as it is.

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I can think of exactly one "great" OOC game from last year--Ohio State and USC. Are we really arguing OOC games--they're basically nonexistent as it is.

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some people incorrectly believe that playoffs will lead to better OOC games

playoffs will lead to more 1-AA OOC games

Of course schedules are dictated by economics. But cross-regional matchups are virtual sellouts while playing Directional State U means a three-quarter capacity stadium. Now, a handful of schools sellout regardless, but that is not the case at the majority of schools.

But the economic argument also shows why AD’s don’t want a tough OOC schedule. The worst thing a title contender can do is lose. You don’t see a 10-2 team with a monster schedule leapfrogging an 11-1 team from the Big 12 or the Big Ten. Maybe the Big East, since that conference is so weak. Nothing brings in profit like winning (that goes for every single sport). And winning a title is worth even more. So why play a rugged OOC when you can try and rig a better record and a better shot at the title?

Like I said before jumping in this thread, it is literally impossible to change anyone’s mind. Everyone’s opinions are too calcified. I don’t think we’ll see a playoff and I’m not staying up nights about it. I’d like to see one, but I like the bowls. So I can really go either way. I just staed some general impressions on the debate, and your virulent reaction really demonstrates my basic point: no one listens to anyone and no one can be convinced.

Honestly, I think the BCS is so terrible that it should be scrapped and we should go back to the old chaotic bowl system. I want New Years Day back. And it was more fun. If we’re not going to systematically crown a title, let’s do it the most entertaining way. And that’s the old bowl system with no absurd rating system, which is just the top two teams in the polls with the illusion of objective math behind it.

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The worst thing a title contender can do is lose.

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and the worst thing a team who knows they're only looking at 1-2 losses in conference could do is lose to an OOC opponent, eliminating them from the playoffs that easy. why get off of easy street?

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So why play a rugged OOC when you can try and rig a better record and a better shot at the title?

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same situation with playoffs but OOC victories are worth even less and losses hurt just as much

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If we’re not going to systematically crown a title, let’s do it the most entertaining way.

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CFB does systematically crown a champ

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some people incorrectly believe that playoffs will lead to better OOC games

playoffs will lead to more 1-AA OOC games

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It completely depends on the format of the playoffs. If it only takes conference champs, then it will lead to better OOC games, because the disincentive for losing OOC has been removed. If there are at large bids based on the current criteria, it will lead to a worse OOC schedule. If there is at-large teams selected by a committee, it completely depends on what the committee stresses. In basketball, they stress SOS, even if you don't win, so it incents teams to play a tough OOC schedule.

It completely and totally depends on the system created. But the great OOC game is essentially dead right now, it is not a viable argument for keeping the current system.

if you guys don't mind, check my playoff idea on the main board. i would like some feedback

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My point being that with the BCS the top 2 is not usually the top 2

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the BCS has gotten every champion right except possibly 2003 and 2004. that's 8/10

and there are no fresno states toe embarrass CFB

From a feasibility standpoint, it is impossible to rate 110 teams or so on the basis of a 12-game schedule. There’s just not enough data to fairly compare teams across conferences. OK, we can tell the extreme examples (the SEC is far better than the Sun Belt), but among the top conferences, it just is too hard to compare the Big Ten champ to the Big 12 champ to the ACC champ to the Pac-10 champ.

It’s all guesswork. Which is why, if we’re gonna keep the bowls, let’s be honest about it, and go back to the old crazy system which didn’t lie about being guesswork. By the way, the old system was fun as hell. Remember the glut of football on New Years? It was awesome.