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re: The Bama game confirms one thing

Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:50 am to
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:50 am to
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The Bama game confirms one thing


that there was zero creativity in the 2 weeks between MS State and Bama, zero. nodda, zip, zilch, not a single creative thought in the mind of our offensive coaches.


Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60585 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:51 am to
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No. Rebuild.



You dont rebuild a program that is competitive. We are competitive. Arkansas and Ole Miss will need rebuilt, LSU got embarassed Sat night, but dont act as if we are not a really good team.

We are a top 10 team, just the top 1 or 2 would be huge favorites.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170436 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:53 am to
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We put up 36 on UGA. I’d hardly say they were right. Is the offense an abject failure if they can’t score on one team that’s on pace to be on the best CFB teams ever?


Are they on pace to be one of the best defenses ever? No. I'd say the obvious answer to your question is yes. It is an absolute abject failure to get shut out at home.
Posted by TheSearch
Mediocrity, LA
Member since Jan 2018
419 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:54 am to
You could have complained about literally any aspect of this team and this staff, and the Bama game would have confirmed your complaints.

I just think it's important to remember that this is the same offense that put 36 on Georgia.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:55 am to
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We put up 36 on UGA. I’d hardly say they were right. Is the offense an abject failure if they can’t score on one team that’s on pace to be on the best CFB teams ever?


Again

People like you continue to miss the big picture. I don’t know whether it’s ignorance or insanity. The offense overall ranks near the bottom of college football. We can have very good games and very bad games mixed in, but over the long haul, statistically we can’t win a championship with the level of offense we are producing.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 8:56 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62170 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:56 am to
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The uga game was the anomaly, not the bama game. The offense is ranked near the bottom of the country for a reason.


This is correct.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12984 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:01 am to
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lifting and getting stronger


I may be the only one, but it's time to move from Moffit.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33858 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:02 am to
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We put up 36 on UGA.


Right, that's one game.

The offense's ranking says it's an abject failure.

For the offense to be that good vs UGA and that poor vs Bama defies logic, other than the conclusion that UGA was a fluke.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:04 am to
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For the offense to be that good vs UGA and that poor vs Bama defies logic, other than the conclusion that UGA was a fluke.


Regression to the mean

We are still capable of a great performance. But our offensive production when averaged over the season will lead to multiple losses because when we have a bad game it’s REALLY bad to the point where the defense has to score and be almost perfect.
Posted by browl
North of BR
Member since Nov 2017
1571 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:04 am to
Someone do me a favor.

Tell me which offensive looks or schemes work when you lose every down at the LOS.

Last time I checked, if you lose in the trenches, you lose the game.


We can save the "I told you our offense sucks" until after this is discussed.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:04 am to
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Sans Georgia we have looked just bad



Even Georgia was somewhat misleading.

Defense set up some short fields and we moved the ball OK between the 20s. But the offense died as soon as we hit the red zone.

How many good drives (not short fields set up by D) ended in TDs that day?
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:06 am to
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Actually, they were right for ONE GAME



Uhhhh. The offense ran I think 15 plays for 52 yards in an entire half against Hammond.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12984 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:14 am to
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Tell me which offensive looks or schemes work when you lose every down at the LOS.


If you consistently lose the LOS, offense will have a bad day. SO yes, you have to win the LOS. LSU won the LOS against UGA (outlier), LSU has struggled in almost every other game.

This has been the story at LSU for years! What has been the constant? The offensive scheme! this is the exact same offense as Miles, only difference is more shotgun. If you are struggling at the LOS, then change your scheme to counter your weakness!
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58353 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:16 am to
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Actually, they were right for ONE GAME. I don't think Georgia thinks are offense isn't good enough.

Posted by 33inNC
Charlotte, NC
Member since Mar 2011
6181 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:20 am to
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Actually, they were right for ONE GAME. I don't think Georgia thinks are offense isn't good enough.


Like everyone else said, the anomaly was the UGA game, this O has been bad for YEARS and the numbers prove it. The D is what gives a lot of scoring opportunities and inflates the numbers. When has the O EVER won a game when the D was not playing well? I sure cannot remember that in recent history (10 or so years).

Here is the issue- Too many are focused on the result and not the "process". Even when Satan loses, he constantly finds ways to improve. Is he that way to a fault and a miserable individual? Sure, but we cannot keep saying, "well, we won, so no need to point out where we need to get better".

That is a loser mentality and not holding our HIGHLY paid coaches accountable will forever produce the results we have been seeing.

No HIGHLY paid coach is beyond criticism, either they find a way to maximize the talent they have (and how to get better talent), or get the frick out of here.
Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
4726 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:21 am to
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We put up 36 on UGA. I’d hardly say they were right. Is the offense an abject failure if they can’t score on one team that’s on pace to be on the best CFB teams ever?

I think the more realistic question is whether the outlier game against Georgia somehow excuses the numbers in other games. I would also add that the offense was greatly aided by the defense against GA, as has been the case all year.

I guess I should have read to the end of the thread, since this sentiment seems to be obvious to most.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 9:25 am
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:24 am to
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That is a loser mentality and not holding our HIGHLY paid coaches accountable will forever produce the results we have been seeing.


Orgeron does not have a fully developed personality that has the ability of introspection. Thus, he cannot see where he needs to improve and he blames others.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16390 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:26 am to
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The uga game was the anomaly, not the bama game. The offense is ranked near the bottom of the country for a reason.

Sadly, that's correct. I knew it would take time for the offense to get going with the new OC and scheme as well as all of the new starters. The problem is that we don't see it trending better. Completion percentage is not improving. Consistency running the ball is not improving. Pass protection is not improving and run blocking is not improving. Red zone offense is not improving.

It's now 4 straight games without a passing TD and that includes the UGA game. 2010 when Jordan Jefferson was named starter was the last time LSU has gone 4 games straight without a passing TD.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33858 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:28 am to
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Someone do me a favor. Tell me which offensive looks or schemes work when you lose every down at the LOS.

Last time I checked, if you lose in the trenches, you lose the game.


I dunno man.

For all of our deficiencies in the trench, there is no excuse for not scoring a single point at home.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78120 posts
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:29 am to
Alabama outmatches everyone on the offensive and defensive lines

LSU is the only team to be shutout
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