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re: The backjudge is the culprit
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:37 am to TigerBait1127
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:37 am to TigerBait1127
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most unprofessional official i have ever seen. He got in Baker's face after the first series for talking smack.
That makes him professional, not UN-professional.
smack talk leads to fighting. same in hoops.
the official was preventing open warfare to break out in a game that became meaningless for Florida pretty quick. When a game is meaningless, guys can take shots.
the fact that LSU guys are in the faces of their opposite number is going to get the team in trouble, by and by.
Better that they stop it now.
For example, I observe that TM7 has a motor mouth.
1. the official was within his rights.
2. the whole team better wake up and fast. that shite is going to cost them a game if they dont stop it.
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:38 am to lsusteve1
quote:Well, it began with him telling the ref after the play that he called it right.
Only because he's being politically correct
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:40 am to lsusteve1
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Only because he's being politically correct....and he in NO way ripped Wing on the sideline after the play.
As u stated earlier.....
Why be politically correct? Has he ever been politically correct before? Don't like it, that's fine, you say "no comment" and move on.
Obviously you didn't watch the Cox rebroadcast. According to Jordy, when the flag hit the ground Jordy stated that Les told the B that it was a good call, more than once.
When Wing got to the sideline, Les got in his face (including a wagging finger) and then pointed up to the replay board and talked to Wing some more about it while watching the replay.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:41 am to AlxTgr
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Well, it began with him telling the ref after the play that he called it right.
And......by the "rule" he did
Still...the rule is not truly defined and leaves subjectiveness.
I'm not pissed at the call.....just don't think it was worthy of a flag in that situation.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:43 am to AlxTgr
It doesn't really piss me off in the fact that it's an incorrect call, because it is. But what DOES piss me off is the inconsistency of the referees. If you call it on one team but not another, that's when it becomes a bullshite call.
It's as if you go to the same bar every night and the cop that works detail there watches everyone get shitfaced every night and get in their car and leave but then one day he just randomly decides to give you a DUI as soon as you get in the car. It is TECHNICALLY the correct thing for him to do, but where's the consistency? What about the other 50 people you watched drive drunk out of the place?
I hope I'm making sense.
It's as if you go to the same bar every night and the cop that works detail there watches everyone get shitfaced every night and get in their car and leave but then one day he just randomly decides to give you a DUI as soon as you get in the car. It is TECHNICALLY the correct thing for him to do, but where's the consistency? What about the other 50 people you watched drive drunk out of the place?
I hope I'm making sense.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:45 am to FrozenMonkey
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It doesn't really piss me off in the fact that it's an incorrect call, because it is. But what DOES piss me off is the inconsistency of the referees. If you call it on one team but not another, that's when it becomes a bullshite call.
Did Florida taunt on their TD and I missed it?
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:46 am to 62zip
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Obviously you didn't watch the Cox rebroadcast. According to Jordy, when the flag hit the ground Jordy stated that Les told the B that it was a good call, more than once.
When Wing got to the sideline, Les got in his face (including a wagging finger) and then pointed up to the replay board and talked to Wing some more about it while watching the replay.
In no way was it an arse-chewing...he was smiling when he patted the helmet and Wing walked away.
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Has he ever been politically correct before?
Absolutely he has....
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:48 am to lsusteve1
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In no way was it an arse-chewing...he was smiling when he patted the helmet and Wing walked away.
Like I said, you apparently did not see his demeanor when he called Wing over to discuss it with him. He knew Wing fked up and had a teaching opportunity with him. Simple.
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Absolutely he has....
When? Why go out of your way on the field and afterwards to say that the call is correct if you think it's not? If he thought the call was incorrect, why didn't he raise hell at the time? Does he never say anything when he sees a call that he feels was incorrect?
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:48 am to ottothewise
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smack talk leads to fighting. same in hoops.
So smack talk from the officials leads to less smack talk from the players? It's not the officials job to dress down a player. It is unprofessional.
I dislike taunting, but it should be some 10 yard penalty assessed after the possession change. I an official has a problem with it, he should go to the coach and let the coach address the player.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
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So smack talk from the officials leads to less smack talk from the players? It's not the officials job to dress down a player. It is unprofessional.
You have no clue.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:50 am to 62zip
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Did Florida taunt on their TD and I missed it?
He's talking about the throat slash....
and
not every incident of "taunting" has been called on TD's in the SEC this year......hence...BS
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:50 am to 62zip
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Who has called a game of a school that they are an alumnus of? I'd be interested in seeing a list.
I was calling a tennis match in the Southland conference between two teams that I had attended (but I did not graduate from either).
One player in the match knew that fact. I called a ball against the player that knew me.
He believed some rumors floated that I was a guy who preferred the other team.
I didnt. I just called what I saw.
So it goes.
Tennis is easy except for foot faults on the serve, which players expect you to ignore. I actually saw a foot fault called recently in a Grand Slam game. Unusual.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:52 am to FrozenMonkey
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It doesn't really piss me off in the fact that it's an incorrect call, because it is. But what DOES piss me off is the inconsistency of the referees. If you call it on one team but not another, that's when it becomes a bullshite call.
Exactly, Joe Adams is the other instance when it was pretty obvious and the Refs did nothing. The problem with this whole situation is that they call it on one team and not another and it will either not be addressed by the head of officiating or the SEC or it wont be called again. If it is going to be called, make sure that all the officials know about it. Hell it seemed like half of the crew that called THIS game didnt see it as being a necessary call.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:53 am to lsusteve1
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He's talking about the throat slash....
and
not every incident of "taunting" has been called on TD's in the SEC this year......hence...BS
Unless Florida taunted on their TD and it wasn't flagged, then it's pretty tough to bitch about consistency in this particular instance. And here's a newsflash, not every single illegal formation or hold gets caught either - that's the nature of the business.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:54 am to 62zip
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Like I said, you apparently did not see his demeanor when he called Wing over to discuss it with him. He knew Wing fked up and had a teaching opportunity with him. Simple
I saw it...and it WASN'T an arse chewing....simple
I WILL give you the teaching opp....he does this often.
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If he thought the call was incorrect, why didn't he raise hell at the time?
Because it didn't affect the game and "by rule"...he had no arguement.
Still didn't make it a correct call.....it was subjective.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:02 am to lsusteve1
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I saw it...and it WASN'T an arse chewing....simple
I WILL give you the teaching opp....he does this often.
Why have a teaching oportunity with a kid if he didn't do anything wrong?
The bottom line is - and I've told more than one coach or player "If you don't like my judgment, don't make me use it."
If Wing just handles his business, we aren't having this discussion.
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Because it didn't affect the game and "by rule"...he had no arguement.
When has that ever stopped a coach from opining on a flag?
Hell Les was griping about Florida's holder on two kickoffs - he was halfway playing, but he was still griping - especially the first time.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:09 am to AlxTgr
This rule is terribly written. In regard to the "unopposed ball carrier obviously altering stride" part. Suppose that a player, running full speed toward the endzone, notices that there is no opposing player in pursuit and then slows down 5 yards from the goal line. No taunting, no "in your face" antics, he just slows down his stride and sort of coast into the endzone, instead of running full speed. He "obviously altered his stride" in the field of play and could, technically, be called for unsportsmanlike conduct simply for slowing down. Terribly written rule.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:12 am to 62zip
Are you the guy that backed the refs last year when they called 29 penalties to 5 in the Barbe/WM game? They were so bad Rivals wrote an article on them and you said the guy wasn't there even after posters told you he was there and they had spoken with him?
Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:15 am to 62zip
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Unless Florida taunted on their TD and it wasn't flagged, then it's pretty tough to bitch about consistency in this particular instance. And here's a newsflash, not every single illegal formation or hold gets caught either - that's the nature of the business.
I was actually referring to the non-call in any other game this season. You going to tell me that nobody taunted in any state, in any game, 6 games into the season. Your argument of not every penalty gets called is invalid when this penalty has never been called.
Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:16 am to 62zip
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Why have a teaching oportunity with a kid if he didn't do anything wrong?
Because....by rule....he should not have done it. But just this year..I've seen Les talking and teaching players on something they've done wrong. His style is not arse chewing (except in extreme cases).........
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