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re: The backjudge is the culprit

Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:25 pm to
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all I saw was highlights of the play about 300 times.


Go back and look and tell me that the Ref who made the call wasnt "inserting himself" into the game. You explain to me how the same exact referee that called that penalty, doesn't flag BYU for having their entire team on the field with time left on the clock?

I'll even link it for you.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:26 pm to
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bullshite. In the LSU game three officials could have thrown a flag bit only one did. Why is that. Two had good judgement.
Wait, are you actually claiming that the Wing penalty was a bad call?
Posted by 62zip
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Member since Aug 2005
6870 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:26 pm to
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bullshite. In the LSU game three officials could have thrown a flag bit only one did. Why is that. Two had good judgement.


Apparently you don't understand the mechanics involved in calling a ball game.

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On the Locker play every official on the field was watching..yet only one flag. Why is that? Good judgement on the others' part.


Again, you don't understand the mechanics involved in calling a ball game. You do know that different people have different responsibilities on a play and that each official views a play from different angles right?

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Randle spiked the ball after a TD against Oregon. Why no flag? Judgement. To pretend like officials call every single flag the second they see the letter of the rule violated is a flat out lie.


He caught a break. That happens.

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The ref showed horrible judgement. The ref in the Locker game should have been shot.


Was Locker's action, according to the rule book, an unsportsmanlike act?

Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:26 pm to
Lost in all of this is a truly bogus call:

Which a-hole threw the flag for an illegal formation? The end result was in our favor, but that was a downright terrible call.

Don't even respond to this, 62zip. I know your schtick. The refs are always perfect.
This post was edited on 10/10/11 at 3:29 pm
Posted by 62zip
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Member since Aug 2005
6870 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:27 pm to
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Wait, are you actually claiming that the Wing penalty was a bad call?


He's been saying it all afternoon and now apparently the flag on Locker a couple of years ago was bad as well.
Posted by TigerEast
Alabama
Member since Dec 2003
1452 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:27 pm to
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Outside of the Peterson replay, we have been treated fairly at Alabama over the years.


Sorry to disagree, but at the 2009 game, referee Ritter watched a Bama definsive player hit JJ late and leading with his helmet. There were also mutiple Bama holding calls not made.
LSU is not the only team that gets screwed playing in Bryant Denny but we have been the most relevent.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:28 pm to
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But, the bottom line though is that Locker commited an unsportsmanlike act, and it cost his team.


No he didn't. He spontaneously reacted to a big play. Do you really believe that there was an attempt to be unsportsmanlike? Nobody believes that.

Classic example of a ref who can't see the forest through the trees.

Posted by 62zip
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Member since Aug 2005
6870 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:31 pm to
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Go back and look and tell me that the Ref who made the call wasnt "inserting himself" into the game. You explain to me how the same exact referee that called that penalty, doesn't flag BYU for having their entire team on the field with time left on the clock?


Are you joking?

BYU did get flagged for unsportsmanlike - it's in the clip you so generously provided.
Posted by 62zip
One Particular Harbor
Member since Aug 2005
6870 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:33 pm to
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Lost in all of this is a truly bogus call:

Which a-hole threw the flag for an illegal formation? The end result was in our favor, but that was a downright terrible call.

Don't even respond to this, 62zip. I know your schtick. The refs are always perfect.


Actually I think I will respond. I've never said any such thing about perfection and in fact have always said exactly the opposite. I've never seen a perfect game.

So the illegal formation flag was in error? Do we have film?
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
38973 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:34 pm to
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BYU did get flagged for unsportsmanlike - it's in the clip you so generously provided.



slowly backs away as the clip I watched wasnt as long as the one linked....

Posted by 62zip
One Particular Harbor
Member since Aug 2005
6870 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:34 pm to
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No he didn't. He spontaneously reacted to a big play. Do you really believe that there was an attempt to be unsportsmanlike? Nobody believes that.


Of course he did. What he did after the play is laid out word for word in the book. The rulesmakers thought enough of it to use it as a specific example of unsportsmanlike behavior.

You might think the rule is bullshite, but it was absolutely the right call.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86426 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:34 pm to
IMHO, they are a bit too quick to declare a guy in the backfield. The line generally has a bow in it and the last guy in line is a bit far back. That does not mean backfield.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62021 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:34 pm to
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Apparently you don't understand the mechanics involved in calling a ball game.


Are you claiming that only one official can make that call? This is not a rhetorical question. You are being intentionally dishonest.
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
2814 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:36 pm to
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Sorry to disagree, but at the 2009 game, referee Ritter watched a Bama definsive player hit JJ late and leading with his helmet. There were also mutiple Bama holding calls not made.
LSU is not the only team that gets screwed playing in Bryant Denny


Interviewed after the game, Ritter professed to having no idea why LSU felt that they had just been screwed.

Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
6125 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:39 pm to
After scanning through this thread I see this backjudge has the same last name as green jeans.
Posted by 62zip
One Particular Harbor
Member since Aug 2005
6870 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:39 pm to
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Are you claiming that only one official can make that call? This is not a rhetorical question. You are being intentionally dishonest.


I claimed no such thing. No idea where you got that from. You call what you see. But in order to call it you have to see it. If your responsibility requires you to be looking at something other than the spot where a particular event occurs, well then it's pretty touch to call it, don't you think?

You aren't one of those clowns who, on pass interference for example, can't understand why it's the job of the official 25 yards away to flag it rather than the guy who is 7-8 yards away, are you?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86426 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:40 pm to
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After scanning through this thread I see this backjudge has the same last name as green jeans


Posted by 62zip
One Particular Harbor
Member since Aug 2005
6870 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:40 pm to
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IMHO, they are a bit too quick to declare a guy in the backfield. The line generally has a bow in it and the last guy in line is a bit far back. That does not mean backfield.


That could be and it is part of the reason that they made a switch from requiring 7 on the line to prohibitiing more than 4 in the backfield, but I would still be interested in seeing a clip of the play in question.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86426 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 3:44 pm to
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That could be and it is part of the reason that they made a switch from requiring 7 on the line to prohibitiing more than 4 in the backfield, but I would still be interested in seeing a clip of the play in question.
Just from memory, there not a clip that shows the line for more than a brief instant. Game should be replayed often on the CBS sports channel. I recorded it and the Cox replay.
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