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Team That'll Disappoint - LSU per Scout
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:10 pm
Team That'll Disappoint
LSU - Being a disappointment is all relative for the top SEC teams. For LSU, not winning the national title would be a disappointment, but it might be even worse than that. The Tigers still have to prove they can throw the ball, there isn't any one area that's appreciably better than Alabama, and they have to prove that all the talent can add up to more wins on a regular basis. Last year, LSU won six games by a touchdown or less, and if it didn't hang on in two of those games, the final regular season record would've been a pedestrian 8-4 instead of 10-2. With games against Oregon, at Mississippi State, at West Virginia, Florida, at Tennessee, Auburn, at Alabama, at Ole Miss, and Arkansas, it'll be tough to get through unscathed. Again, when the goal is the national title, or at least the SEC title, anything less will be a major downer.
LSU - Being a disappointment is all relative for the top SEC teams. For LSU, not winning the national title would be a disappointment, but it might be even worse than that. The Tigers still have to prove they can throw the ball, there isn't any one area that's appreciably better than Alabama, and they have to prove that all the talent can add up to more wins on a regular basis. Last year, LSU won six games by a touchdown or less, and if it didn't hang on in two of those games, the final regular season record would've been a pedestrian 8-4 instead of 10-2. With games against Oregon, at Mississippi State, at West Virginia, Florida, at Tennessee, Auburn, at Alabama, at Ole Miss, and Arkansas, it'll be tough to get through unscathed. Again, when the goal is the national title, or at least the SEC title, anything less will be a major downer.
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Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:12 pm to kellyman17
fair statement
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:13 pm to kellyman17
Not a bad assessment for Scout, seeing as how they themselves regularly disappoint.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:14 pm to kellyman17
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they have to prove that all the talent can add up to more wins on a regular basis
only part i disagree with. i would consider averaging 10+ wins a season winning "on a regular basis"
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:15 pm to Choctaw
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only part i disagree with. i would consider averaging 10+ wins a season winning "on a regular basis"
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:18 pm to Choctaw
they said "more wins". Not "winning" on a regular basis. Bc I agree with you...I think anyone who has a pulse the past 10 yrs would agree LSU wins on reg basis
I guess they want more titles? Because if we avg'd 11+ wins that would be the case
I guess they want more titles? Because if we avg'd 11+ wins that would be the case
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:27 pm to Choctaw
There is alot of reasons we will be really good this year and am not going to get into all of that. The main thing to remember about " talent" level is, the 08 and 09 seasons, we fielded the least talented teams this decade. Our 05 and 06 classes were not top ten at all. We are definitely on the up swing and will do really well this year. Btw, we could have just as easily been 11-1 instead of 8-4. We have been improving every year since 08 too, and this is with nothing but defense.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:29 pm to kellyman17
Que 'Neck'
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:29 pm to jackson123
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For LSU, not winning the national title would be a disappointment,
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fair statement
Disagree. Completely unfair considering this schedule.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:29 pm to Choctaw
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only part i disagree with. i would consider averaging 10+ wins a season winning "on a regular basis"
You disagree with anything negative...homer
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:29 pm to ccomeaux
I personally believe that this will be the season that we will either be calling for Les' head or enshrining him as one of the greatest coaches in LSU history. Just my two cents.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:31 pm to TheHumanTornado
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we will either be calling for Les' head
Exactly why it's unfair.
With all the preseason high rankings, if LSU doesn't win the NC, people will want him gone. With this schedule, 2 losses isn't out of the question.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:32 pm to Prominentwon
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With all the preseason high rankings, if LSU doesn't win the NC, people will want him gone.
Well at least I will be consistent!
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:38 pm to dreaux
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The main thing to remember about " talent" level is, the 08 and 09 seasons, we fielded the least talented teams this decade. Our 05 and 06 classes were not top ten at all. We are definitely on the up swing
This is true. Les in his 1st year in 05 didn't have a typical top 10 class due to the timing of NS leaving. In both the 08 and 09 seasons, the 05 class could have potentially provided leadership needed to win close games. All classes have been top 10 outside of 05, but the last 3 classes have been dynamite top to bottom.
I like the direction of the program and the fact is CLM will always be considered lucky until he wins another title. I think he is a great coach. You can't get lucky for 10 straight Years as a HC with a 80% win clip at LSU and 70% overall. If you compare those numbers to NS, who the media deifies, they are spot on with each other.
This post was edited on 8/16/11 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:43 pm to Lee Chatelain
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You disagree with anything negative...homer
there's a whole paragraph of negative in the OP...i pick out one sentence. Why u mad?
and can you see any positives when it comes to LSU football?
This post was edited on 8/16/11 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:50 pm to kellyman17
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Last year, LSU won six games by a touchdown or less, and if it didn't hang on in two of those games, the final regular season record would've been a pedestrian 8-4 instead of 10-2.
Let's see...if LSU had not hung on in two of those games and not scored more points than their opponent in another their record would have been 7-5 instead of 10-2...OR...if LSU had not hung on in two of those games and not scored more points than their opponent in two other games their record would have their record would have been 6-6...OR...ONE MORE...if Auburn had not outscored all of their opponents their record would have been 0-11 with no national championship.
So, there you have it, Auburn was damn lucky to when the National Championship last year so, therefore, I expect them to not win a game this year.
I grow tired of the what if argument. It does sell papers, I guess.
Posted on 8/16/11 at 12:54 pm to Choctaw
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and can you see any positives when it comes to LSU football?
Sure I can!
Posted on 8/16/11 at 1:03 pm to Prominentwon
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we will either be calling for Les' head
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Exactly why it's unfair.
With all the preseason high rankings, if LSU doesn't win the NC, people will want him gone. With this schedule, 2 losses isn't out of the question.
Would also be the norm...while Les gives us a style to win many games that same style is always good for a couple of losses each year...his teams lack the discipline to win em all...I'll eat crow when it happens and be happy as I can be but I just don't see a team that he leads having the attention to detail needed to get it done...
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we will either be calling for Les' head
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Exactly why it's unfair.
With all the preseason high rankings, if LSU doesn't win the NC, people will want him gone. With this schedule, 2 losses isn't out of the question.
Would also be the norm...while Les gives us a style to win many games that same style is always good for a couple of losses each year...his teams lack the discipline to win em all...I'll eat crow when it happens and be happy as I can be but I just don't see a team that he leads having the attention to detail needed to get it done...
Posted on 8/16/11 at 1:04 pm to kellyman17
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Tigers still have to prove they can throw the ball
Why? We couldn't throw last year and lost twice. What does marginal improvement mean?
Posted on 8/16/11 at 1:05 pm to kellyman17
This seems quite possible. Again, the QB will make or break this team.
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