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re: T Bob says it’s scheme not players
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:11 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:11 pm to lsufball19
Not a slant
And and really we bubbles are about getting out in space. Your WR are stalling the DB along enough. It’s jot like you need them to open gaps. You need them to get in the way and the ball crakes advantage of a small amount of space.
And and really we bubbles are about getting out in space. Your WR are stalling the DB along enough. It’s jot like you need them to open gaps. You need them to get in the way and the ball crakes advantage of a small amount of space.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 12:12 pm
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:12 pm to lsufball19
For the record i was talking about screen passes to the running back, not WR/bubble screens. Although i would like to see some of those too
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:13 pm to rickyh
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So Traore got beat consistantly because of scheme
Man he was supposed to be one of the fixes for the alleged sins of the previous staff Re: o-line. Looks like he ain't ready yet, and typically the reason you go Juco is they are more ready to play early.
That one is definitely a player issue, but as Flynn and other have said, you can scheme around that several different ways that many think are preferable to max protect and 2 receivers out on routes against 4 DB's.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:14 pm to Starchild
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I'm not saying Burrow is anything close to Rodgers but the concept rings true...4-5 WR sets spreads the defense and allows them to get separation. They have talent so get it to them in space and let them work. Same with the RBs. Worst case you are at least picking up yards and first downs, but we have the athletes to break some of this for a big gain or a TD on occasion. This also allows us to sustain drives and control the clock more, which in turn will help the already great defense even more
IF they manage to catch the ball, which hasn't been a certainty so far this season.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:15 pm to Sasquatch Smash
They definitely aren’t gonna catch the passes Burows throws into the dirt while getting drilled.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:16 pm to lsupride87
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What a horrible take from you
What a horrible take from you
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:16 pm to Lebowski
Scheme is terrible, spread it out and hit dump off and quick screens out of the back field. Max protect allows defense to stack the box as well as double teaming the two receivers going out for routes.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:18 pm to lsu2006
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You seem to really want to focus in on the fact that Burrow isn't Rodgers
Well that pretty damn relevant
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I wonder if that's something we are capable of.
and that's the point I've been making. We may not have the ability with our players to do that successfully. I'm not saying we can't make adjustments, but I also didn't think anyone expected our OL to get their asses beat to the ground by an FCS school.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:23 pm to Sasquatch Smash
True, but that is something more easily remedied. I also believe if we have more options on the field and give them quick, easy passes they will be more open (not double and triple covered making catches much harder) and it will build confidence. Both in themselves and in the QB which is critical in the passing game.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:23 pm to memphis tiger
I'd pack my receivers in more or at least bring the three wide receiver in more in a bunch like the Saints do.... I know Orgeron had brought in some of the Saints staff this summer about this stuff
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:25 pm to Lebowski
T-Bob talks out of both sides of his mouth. Two weeks ago he was passively putting down the O is on the hot seat narrative. This morning after his analysis he went straight to “O is on the hot seat” chicken shite stirring the pot. As an ex-player he should know better. The let’s fire the coach narrative after every bad preformance eventually gets into these kids head. Hell it gets exhausting as a fan.
If this coaching staff doesn’t meet the expectations of those paying the bill there is no doubt they get their walking papers. Until that happens god give these kids peace and let them have there season.
If this coaching staff doesn’t meet the expectations of those paying the bill there is no doubt they get their walking papers. Until that happens god give these kids peace and let them have there season.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:25 pm to lsufball19
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and that's the point I've been making. We may not have the ability with our players to do that successfully.
Or maybe our top two offensive coaches aren't capable of adapting and adjusting to our weaknesses, unexpected or not? Why do we automatically lay it at the feet of the 18-21 year old kids instead of the people paid hundreds of thousands of dollars per year to fix it and figure out how to put a competent offense on the field? It doesn't take NFL-caliber players across the board to do a better job of keeping the defense on its toes and to keep an FCS front-7 out of our backfield.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:27 pm to SammyTiger
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They definitely aren’t gonna catch the passes Burows throws into the dirt while getting drilled.
No argument there. And I wasn't implying that I was completely against that poster's idea. Something has to be done about the offensive game plan.
Once again, we seem to have a staff that is unwilling to put the players into a position for them to succeed because they (the coaches) are wanting to run a certain scheme. They need to be flexible and find what works with they players they have.
Enough with this "square pegs into round holes" bullshite.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:27 pm to Klark Kent
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TBob made some good points this morning in that opening segment on why it doesn't make sense that our retarded OC is calling 5,6,7,8 man protection schemes, but if you think Joe Burrow, Nick Brossette, our weak OLine, and young WR core is going to compete in the SEC, I'd like to sell you some ocean front property in North Louisiana.
Unless Special Ed gets the axe, Ensminger will be back next season as well, regardless of how bad he is. Coach O can't use Ensminger as a sacrificial lamb, even if he sucks big time, since he was hand-picked by Orgeron for the OC position.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:29 pm to lsufball19
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We may not have the ability with our players to do that successfully. I'm not saying we can't make adjustments, but I also didn't think anyone expected our OL to get their asses beat to the ground by an FCS school.
If you can’t nlock, shorter passes and forcing them to cover more people schematically makes it harde for them to bring as many people on a blitz.
You don’t have to be the greatest QB ever to throw a slant.
There is a reason the spread offense started at shitty schools. Because they couldn’t block long enough for pro style offenses.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:30 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
7/27 on 3rd down conversion
107th in the country in plays over 10 yards gained
112th in total offense
4.47 yards per carry, good for 74th in the country
6.6 yards per attempt, good for 92nd in the country
107th in the country in plays over 10 yards gained
112th in total offense
4.47 yards per carry, good for 74th in the country
6.6 yards per attempt, good for 92nd in the country
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:31 pm to rmnldr
They’re runn8ng LSU’s that too long to develop or the WR can’t get open.
There are few, if any quick drop and throws. No flares to the backs in the flat or TE Zin the flat. Few bubble or slip screens.
It’s the same running plays and the same routes.
There’s no variation.
Compare our offensive calls to others. We lack creativity.
We hired a dinosaur who runs what he knows.
The offense O “envisioned.”
There are few, if any quick drop and throws. No flares to the backs in the flat or TE Zin the flat. Few bubble or slip screens.
It’s the same running plays and the same routes.
There’s no variation.
Compare our offensive calls to others. We lack creativity.
We hired a dinosaur who runs what he knows.
The offense O “envisioned.”
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:31 pm to Sasquatch Smash
I agree 100% and we were told all summer by the propaganda dept. that we were running an offense Joe basically knew.
Which of course we aren’t. He probably didn’t even take a snap under center at OSU. This isn’t a spread option offense, or even a spread offense.
Which of course we aren’t. He probably didn’t even take a snap under center at OSU. This isn’t a spread option offense, or even a spread offense.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:31 pm to windmill
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Enough with the childish "unqualified coach" talk. You're just regurgitating that crap from reading it on TD-you didn't come up with it. The powers that be that hired him believe he is qualified so you're above them? Nah
Seeing that the LSU administration was the only one to even consider hiring O tells me that more people than me think he's unqualified.
Just because LSU has a terrible AD and President doesn't mean that O is qualified.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:32 pm to lsu2006
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Why do we automatically lay it at the feet of the 18-21 year old kids instead of the people paid hundreds of thousands of dollars per year to fix it and figure out how to put a competent offense on the field?
Why does 100% of the blame have to be placed on one or the other? I'm not saying the coaching staff shoulders none of the blame, but are you not willing to at least entertain the thought that we have personnel issues, something all of us were well aware of coming into the season, and something that is worse currently than it was a month ago? For the sake of argument, let's say we did spread them out 5 wide and try to combat our inability to block and that didn't work either. What would the rant narrative have been at that point? I'm sure there would have been some manufactured narrative of how the coaching staff sucks. I can almost guarantee no one would have been saying, "well, we adjusted how we should have, so kudos to Ensminger for at least trying to what we could to move the ball."
I'm sorry, but this board has been so mentally unhinged. It's quite hilarious. The confirmation bias and groupthink is at an all-time high and it really needs to stop.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 12:37 pm
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