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re: T Bob says it’s scheme not players
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:00 pm to lsu2006
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:00 pm to lsu2006
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OK, but you will at least agree that there are ways to scheme around a deficient offensive line, right?
Sure, but running a completely different offense in week 2 than you've been practicing all off-season isn't exactly something you can implement on a whim either. We also are starting almost all first time players at receiver, including 2 true freshman. They are certainly talented, but running the type of offense you're talking about also involves the receivers not missing assignments, which it appears as if they are. I just think the problem is a lot more than just being a scheme problem. Only one running back on the team is doing anything of note, no one on the OL is blocking, receivers are missing assignments and dropping passes. When all of those things are happening, simply going to a different scheme isn't going to fix the offense. Quite frankly, a lot of these issues are due to years of not filling needs recruiting. For instance, when you have two transcendant talents at RB who you know are only going to be around 3 years and it being a position where you need more than one guy to produce, there is no excuse for going an entire recruiting cycle without signing a RB like we did in 2016.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 12:03 pm
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Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:02 pm to lsufball19
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Quite frankly, a lot of these issues are due to years of not filling needs recruiting.
Anything to deflect from O
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:02 pm to Lebowski
Lol
T bob fit right in here
He knows more than a former NFL Oline coach
T bob fit right in here
He knows more than a former NFL Oline coach
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:02 pm to Dave England
That’s exactly what it is.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:03 pm to p&g
quote:
T bob fit right in here
He knows more than a former NFL Oline coach
Always personal shots with nothing to back them up. How about you breakdown where he's wrong.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:03 pm to Dave England
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Anything to deflect from O
It's not deflecting from O. Orgeron is partly responsible for this as well.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:04 pm to p&g
1. he was an assistant NFL OL coach.
2. Where is anyone saying T-BOB knows more than Cregg? Did Cregg come up with this scheme? Or any other?
2. Where is anyone saying T-BOB knows more than Cregg? Did Cregg come up with this scheme? Or any other?
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:04 pm to lsufball19
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Sure, but running a completely different offense in week 2 than you've been practicing all off-season isn't exactly something you can implement on a whim either.
Completely different? All i'm asking is to incorporate some screens and slants and maybe some delayed runs and maybe not just rely solely on going max protect when we're having protection issues. Are you under the impression none of these types of plays are in our repertoire?
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:04 pm to The Pirate King
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Now imagine that with less blockers and more free runners. Just because he’s also taken hits in max protect doesn’t mean that he would take the same amount or less hits with more targets. It doesn’t matter if you have 5 receivers if someone is bullrushing your QB the moment he gets the ball.
That’s not how any of this works.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:05 pm to lsufball19
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but running a completely different offense in week 2 than you've been practicing all off-season
We were told that was exactly the kind of offense they were practicing...
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:05 pm to Lebowski
the offense being run by Miles' TE has shades of Miles' offense?
STOP THE PRESS!!!!!!
STOP THE PRESS!!!!!!
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:06 pm to lsu2006
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All i'm asking is to incorporate some screens and slants and maybe some delayed runs and maybe not just rely solely on going max protect when we're having protection issues. Are you under the impression none of these types of plays are in our repertoire?
we did run a number of quick slants. We ran draw plays as well as some QB read option plays. And running these quick WR screens involves your WRs blocking. If they're not able to do that, then those plays don't work either.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:06 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Did you happen to watch the Packers game last night?
You guys want spread and throw it around. You have to have an offensive line that can block.
The bears were raping the Packers line. So how did the packers combat that? THey actually sent more receivers in the game and negated the pressure the Bears were bringing by running quick pass plays across the entire field
Unfortunately, our staff has the brain power of people like you
I respinded to lnchs post but he agrees with me
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:07 pm to lsupride87
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I respinded to lnchs post
I was about to go off on you
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:07 pm to The Pirate King
How long do you need to block on a bubble screen Or a slant?
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:08 pm to lsupride87
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The bears were raping the Packers line. So how did the packers combat that? THey actually sent more receivers in the game and negated the pressure the Bears were bringing by running quick pass plays across the entire field
I love when people take what the best QB in the NFL with one of the quickest releases and strongest arms in the game can do with an offense and wonder why our backup transfer QB can't run the offense the same way as if it's that black and white
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:09 pm to SammyTiger
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How long do you need to block on a bubble screen Or a slant?
it requires your WRs to block well.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:09 pm to lsufball19
quote:What a horrible take from you
I love when people take what the best QB in the NFL with one of the quickest releases and strongest arms in the game can do with an offense and wonder why our backup transfer QB can't run the offense the same way as if it's that black and white
They were getting killed with Rodgers in the game too........
Rodgers didnt change in the middle of the game, the scheme did.......
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:10 pm to lsufball19
Already throwing the players under the bus.
Southeastern isn’t the bears either.
Southeastern isn’t the bears either.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 9/10/18 at 12:11 pm to lsufball19
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I love when people take what the best QB in the NFL with one of the quickest releases and strongest arms in the game can do with an offense and wonder why our backup transfer QB can't run the offense the same way as if it's that black and white
You seem to really want to focus in on the fact that Burrow isn't Rodgers. Everyone is abundantly aware of that. The principle remains the same. Schemes or gameplans can be adjusted or tweaked real time to address certain deficiencies and ways in which a team is beating you or seems to have the upper hand. I wonder if that's something we are capable of.
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