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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:11 am to
Posted by TigerWoody
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:11 am to
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Jefferson's effeciency rating was pretty much on par with Lee's until we faced top-notch defenses. And Lee was less efficient against that same Alabama defense. Both QB's are mediocre at best.
Truth.

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Les stuck with the one he had more trust in.
Les has said this though it has not satisfied those bent on wild theories.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:14 am to
Lee should have come in during the second half.

It borders on inexcusable.
Posted by TiegerTim
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:18 am to
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You have no clue what was going on with the team, Lee, Jefferson, or the coaches. But you will continue to stick to your guns and claim Lee never got a chance a redemption (and you have no clue if deserved that shot).
you're right, we have no clue as to what went on behind closed doors, but we do know that Les said Lee would play, players have said that it was in the gameplan for Lee to play, Lee said he thought he would play and then Les says, he didn't think it would be fair to put him in...
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And just to add, Jefferson's effeciency rating was pretty much on par with Lee's until we faced top-notch defenses.
do you think the offense looked better after BAMA or before BAMA (1st game)?
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Both QB's are mediocre at best.
i agree with this, but i think that JJ is more mediocre than JL...
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Les stuck with the one he had more trust in.
and this is why people question his judgement regarding JJ/JL...
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:20 am to
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Weird that tbob didn't play a single snap


Why is it weird? The coaches determined toward the end of the year that Williford was better--an opinion shared by most everyone, including, I imagine, you. And because we couldn't get 1st downs, there weren't just a whole lot of snaps that we ran. Not weird at all that backups didn't play.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:21 am to
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Then explain why Lee was denied any playing time in mop up duty after the Bama game, even in those games where we had it locked up


Maybe to get Jefferson more playing time before we faced that Alabama defense again, who knows?

But this isn't freaking biddy basketball, so what if he didn't get the playing time you think he deserved. For you to constantly cry and complain about how unfairly Lee was treated makes you seem delusional.

And to be clear, I thought Lee should have played in both the SECC and the NC, not because of some great injustice done to Lee or a hope for him to redeem himself, but maybe to give some energy to the offense. However, I can understand the reasons why Miles wouldn't play him because I'm not blinded by my love for Lee or hate for Miles.
Posted by fearthemoomoo
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:21 am to
This place has gotten rediculous.
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:26 am to
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do you think the offense looked better after BAMA or before BAMA (1st game)?


After the Bama game up until the UGA game our offense looked as good as it has all season and produced more than it has all season.
Hell the reason so many analyst picked us to beat Bama again is because our offense improved since the first match up.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:27 am to
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Maybe to get Jefferson more playing time before we faced that Alabama defense again, who knows?


We didn't know who we were going to play in the NCG when the Senior game was played in Tiger Stadium, and still Miles wouldn't even let him come in and get PT. STILL, in the SECCG we didn't know for sure who we would be facing, and no LEE.

I don't buy that. Oh, I do believe that Les believed that Jefferson was his best answer, which is why he was so quick to find PT for Jefferson in drives that Lee orchestrated the moment Jefferson was brought back on the team, another fear most people had the moment it was announced that Jefferson would be back on the team, that Les was going to screw this to hell and back and look for an excuse to insert Jefferson as the starter, which is EXACTLY what he ended up doing.

Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:28 am to
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We didn't know who we were going to play in the NCG when the Senior game was played in Tiger Stadium, and still Miles wouldn't even let him come in and get PT. STILL, in the SECCG we didn't know for sure who we would be facing, and no LEE.

I don't buy that. Oh, I do believe that Les believed that Jefferson was his best answer, which is why he was so quick to find PT for Jefferson in drives that Lee orchestrated the moment Jefferson was brought back on the team, another fear most people had the moment it was announced that Jefferson would be back on the team, that Les was going to screw this to hell and back and look for an excuse to insert Jefferson as the starter, which is EXACTLY what he ended up doing


So I ask again. What exactly do you want?
Posted by fischd1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:29 am to
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Weird that tbob didn't play a single snap
.........Guys, take this to the bank. Miles HATES T Bob's dad and vice versa. That was an obstacle for T Bob all season. Sorta sucked but most coaches say that they do not listen to radio shows but Miles does. Miles was pissed early in the season that Bobby picked Oregon over LSU. His dislike of Bobby (and perhaps T Bob) tripped up T Bob all season.
Posted by TiegerTim
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Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:29 am to
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After the Bama game up until the UGA game our offense looked as good as it has all season and produced more than it has all season.
don't leave out the GA game... its part of the season...
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our offense improved since the first match up.
meh...
Posted by TigerNlc
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Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:30 am to
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However, I can understand the reasons why Miles wouldn't play him because I'm not blinded by my love for Lee or hate for Miles.

Do you think a QB should lose all his playing time after throwing 2 interceptions? Those 2 put him at 3 total for the year. To me that is mind blowing.
This post was edited on 1/17/12 at 10:31 am
Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:31 am to
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think people are tring to make to much of all this... CLM made mistake... he desided to stick with on below average to average QB over the other... Both preformed poorly against bama.... he should have given the other a chance but didn't.. oh well lets keep whinning and complaining... it will turn back
Its not even that he stuck with JJ, to me its that he quit,gave up. And there is no excuse for that, none. And any Tiger fan who accepts it, then thats what you'll always get, quitting when put in a tough spot.
Posted by TiegerTim
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Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:31 am to
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another fear most people had the moment it was announced that Jefferson would be back on the team, that Les was going to screw this to hell and back and look for an excuse to insert Jefferson as the starter, which is EXACTLY what he ended up doing.
I voiced this to friends of mine as soon as les put him in the game....
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28937 posts
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:32 am to
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Miles was pissed early in the season that Bobby picked Oregon over LSU. His dislike of Bobby (and perhaps T Bob) tripped up T Bob all season.


EL

O

fricking

EL

Stop idiots....just stop. Please!
Posted by Robcrzy
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2007
1326 posts
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:33 am to
Les miles got outcoached our players got out played and Alabama was more motivated PERIOD!!!!!
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:33 am to
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So I ask again. What exactly do you want?



I want Les to do what he says, that is to DO THE RIGHT THING, and he didn't.


NEVER have I EVER in all my years as a Tiger Fan be more pissed off at the manner in which a Tiger player was treated than right now.

Losing to Bama I can take, even losing to them by 21-0, but not utilizing Lee, especially when he's a senior and brought you to this point and when he could have perhaps sparked life into an anemic offense is inexcusable on multiple levels.

I want Les to explain his actions in detail, and I want Les to come clean why he consistently promised to get Lee into games, and yet never did, but had no problem in inserting Jefferson into drives that Lee orchestrated earlier in the season.

IN SHORT, I want Les to be fricking honest, which he's not being.


Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:35 am to
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don't leave out the GA game... its part of the season...


That's not what I was implying. The point I was trying to make is thatour QB play was pretty much the same all year no matter who was in. When teams could limit our running game, our offense struggled. It did with Jefferson as QB when we played UGA(in the first half, until the running game could break out) and Bama. It did with Lee as QB when we played Oregon, MSU, UK (until the running game broke out) and Bama.
My point is that maybe its as simple as Les trusted Jefferson more than Lee and it wasn't some vendetta he held against Lee.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28937 posts
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:36 am to
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but had no problem in inserting Jefferson into drives that Lee orchestrated earlier in the season.


Did you have problems with Perilloux playing on drives Matt Flynn orchestrated?

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IN SHORT, I want Les to be fricking honest, which he's not being.


ok
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 1/17/12 at 10:36 am to
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IN SHORT, I want Les to be fricking honest, which he's not being.


Why does it matter? He doesn't need to be to anyone on the "outside".

Just because you have 4 tickets in the South Upper does not mean you deserve full disclosure.
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