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re: Sunk cost and Matt McMahon….
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:10 pm to LSBoosie
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:10 pm to LSBoosie
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This thought sounds good until you actually think about it logically.
Your argument is the one completely devoid of logic. Shitty basketball has us making 2.5m, a good to very good one would have us +10m or more. There is no booster roi, but the athletic dept is the ultimate steward and the one who will see a return.
Another shitty yr by McMahon will only depress the fanbase even further making the rebuild job for the next guy even more difficult. When you’re digging yourself into a hole, best to just stop and not make the hole bigger.
It’s to the point of absurdity, McMahon has won more than 4 sec games once in 4yrs, that’s beyond awful. People in here could probably go out and do that much…..
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 8:13 pm
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Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:13 pm to TJG210
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Your argument is the one completely devoid of logic. Shitty basketball has us making 2.5m, a good to very good one would have us +10m or more. There is no booster roi, but the athletic dept is the ultimate steward and the one who will see a return.
Thanks. You just proved my point. There is no booster ROI inside of their happiness. The boosters are the one’s who pay the buyout and salaries, not the athletic department.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:33 pm to LSBoosie
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The boosters are the one’s who pay the buyout and salaries, not the athletic department.
Not exactly
Posted on 3/17/26 at 8:37 pm to TJG210
Who pays it?
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:00 pm to LSBoosie
Boosters are one source, but I’m sure the operating revenue from the athletic department is another.
A boosters ROI is zero in all other sports too, but we still have guys ponying up.
You also don’t know your arse from a hole in the ground, no coaches salary is 100% subsidized direct from boosters, Not sure where you got that idiotic notion.
What booster is going to give nil bucks to mcloser to watch him light it on fire like he did this year?
A boosters ROI is zero in all other sports too, but we still have guys ponying up.
You also don’t know your arse from a hole in the ground, no coaches salary is 100% subsidized direct from boosters, Not sure where you got that idiotic notion.
What booster is going to give nil bucks to mcloser to watch him light it on fire like he did this year?
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:08 pm to TJG210
Please understand, we are trying to fund Kelly's, and Scott Woodwards buyout. At the same time we have hired a coach at 13 million a year and we have committed to 40 million a year in NIL. All this money is coming from TAF doners and needs to be raised.
We have to be fiscally responsible. Paying McMahon another 7 odd million would be fiscally irresponsible. It is simply not worth it. Let him finish his contract and go and we can start a fresh. Actually I would not spend on MBB NIL because it is a waste. McMahon could not win the SEC with Michael Jordan, LaBron James, Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Magic Johnson starting.
Just save the money and spend it somewhere else.
We have to be fiscally responsible. Paying McMahon another 7 odd million would be fiscally irresponsible. It is simply not worth it. Let him finish his contract and go and we can start a fresh. Actually I would not spend on MBB NIL because it is a waste. McMahon could not win the SEC with Michael Jordan, LaBron James, Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Magic Johnson starting.
Just save the money and spend it somewhere else.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:26 pm to mike4lsu
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We have to be fiscally responsible. Paying McMahon another 7 odd million would be fiscally irresponsible.
$7m isn’t a lump sum payment, over 3yrs that’s only about 2.5/ea, if we are even decently improved we’ll more than make up for that.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:40 pm to TJG210
I think there are three possibilities here:
1. Reading the tea leaves, I just don't think we have enough big money boosters who give a shite about MBB, and won't pay to buy McMahon out (most likely given the history of our MBB program);
2. They're waiting for NC State's season to come to an end and will go all in on Wade. If he declines, they ride with McMahon.
3. They actually vet other qualified candidates and make a good hire after March Madness (highly unlikely given our administration's history).
1. Reading the tea leaves, I just don't think we have enough big money boosters who give a shite about MBB, and won't pay to buy McMahon out (most likely given the history of our MBB program);
2. They're waiting for NC State's season to come to an end and will go all in on Wade. If he declines, they ride with McMahon.
3. They actually vet other qualified candidates and make a good hire after March Madness (highly unlikely given our administration's history).
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:43 pm to Lucado
I just don’t understand being all or nothing on wade, he’s a good coach, but he’s no colossal superstar.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 9:45 pm to TJG210
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Boosters are one source, but I’m sure the operating revenue from the athletic department is another.
Without boosters, these coaches wouldn’t be getting paid what they are. You can pretend like that’s not the case, but it just is. The athletic department doesn’t have $15 million extra just sitting around to fire coaches. When LSU fired Brian Kelly, you think they just created a new line item of revenue in the budget that made $800k appear every month?
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A boosters ROI is zero in all other sports too, but we still have guys ponying up.
Of course. But that’s up to the boosters and what they value. If they want to pay the buyout, they will. If they don’t, then McMahon is staying. You sit here and act like the athletic department turns some massive profit every year.
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You also don’t know your arse from a hole in the ground, no coaches salary is 100% subsidized direct from boosters, Not sure where you got that idiotic notion.
In big money sports, the coaches salaries and buyouts are dependent on booster money. If you don’t believe that to be true, idk what to tell you.
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What booster is going to give nil bucks to mcloser to watch him light it on fire like he did this year?
The FMOL Health President and CEO has already publicly said that he wants McMahon to return. He was a part of the six person coaching search committee when LSU was looking for a new football coach.
This post was edited on 3/17/26 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:14 pm to TJG210
2.5 million can buy how many football players in the transfer portal.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 10:23 pm to TJG210
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I just don’t understand being all or nothing on wade, he’s a good coach, but he’s no colossal superstar.
I agree. In fact, there are probably a number of other coaches out there that LSU could land that would be just as good if not better than Wade, but the problem is convincing the guys who would pay McMahon's buyout and then pay to bring on the new guy. I don't think we have enough boosters with that amount of buy in and interest in listening to who that guy is. If our AD has proven anything over the years, it is not going to take the time and effort to vet the next Todd Golden.
Posted on 3/17/26 at 11:07 pm to mike4lsu
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2.5 million can buy how many football players in the transfer portal.
If LSU brings in $10m more in basketball profit, how many does that get you?
The idea that you can only be good in 1-2 sports is asinine. We spent $11m this yr on absolute shite results. Gonna spend another $10m next yr for 3 sec wins and even a bigger decay of your fanbase.
If LSU wants a new arena anytime soon, an improved mens basketball team is imperative. Can’t operate a new arena on $6 women’s basketball tickets.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:02 am to TJG210
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If LSU wants a new arena anytime soon, an improved mens basketball team is imperative. Can’t operate a new arena on $6 women’s basketball tickets.
Can't operate a new arena letting people in for free for men's basketball if they bring in a canned good or ticket to another sport.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:06 am to TJG210
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If LSU wants a new arena anytime soon, an improved mens basketball team is imperative. Can’t operate a new arena on $6 women’s basketball tickets.
Sounds like they should cut money from the program that loses $8 million a year
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:23 am to kjp811
quote:This can’t be a serious response. Bad CEOs get fired often and receive huge severance packages.
Does that CEO have a buyout clause?
There are dudes on here still holding on to their Blockbuster stock since it’s bound to rebound soon.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:27 am to TJG210
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I just don’t understand being all or nothing on wade, he’s a good coach, but he’s no colossal superstar.
So which "Super Star" is available?
We aren't competing for a "Super Star", just a winner who can keep us competitive, who may get a run at the Final Four occasionally. Wade even said that was his goal, "keep us competitive" and hopefully the stars will align, we get hot at the right time, and win it all.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:05 am to Gus007
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which "Super Star" is available?
That isn’t my job to know…..Todd Golden wasn’t a “superstar” before Florida scooped him up. I think Wade is fine, but from reading the rant you’d think he’s the basketball version of Saban.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:36 am to kjp811
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Does that CEO have a buyout clause?
Forget dealing with "logic" with the men's BB discussion. I'm for McMahon out right now, but I understand the economics of this situation.
#Thisisntfootballorevenbaseball
It's Wade or bust (i.e. McMahon), just due to costs.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:44 am to Ace Midnight
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It's Wade or bust (i.e. McMahon), just due to costs.
That makes negative sense…so either get a long shot with a lower ceiling or keep our shitty current coach?
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