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re: Stuff is happening with the staff.

Posted on 12/9/15 at 10:22 pm to
Posted by vjp819
South Sec. 414 / Alex Box Sec. 210
Member since Nov 2003
10882 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 10:22 pm to
i don't get mad sonny. you internet bad guys get mad. call me some more names, i need another laugh. proving how uninformed of the schemes used, and why certain ones are used the way they are during the course of a game or a season makes me laugh even more. keep coming with your ignorance.
This post was edited on 12/9/15 at 10:36 pm
Posted by TrapperJohn
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
11841 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

Mawae doesn't hide his hatred for Les, and pretty sure it's reciprocated

I've never heard/seen anything from Les, but he has to know that Mawae thinks he's an arse. I don't see how that situation could ever be resolved.
Posted by TigerBert
Member since Oct 2015
3018 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 10:28 pm to
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calling plays isn't the problem with this football team if you haven't noticed. It's the development of the quarterback. Most of the plays that are called would be different if we had a quarterback that could 1st read defenses, 2. know where alternate receivers are going to be on any given play. 3. Learn to use the pocket, and if you have to run, do it before it's the last and final option. Cam can't coach quarterbacks who weren't good enough to be drafted into the NFL. He can't coach quarterbacks with high school experience or light college expierence AT ALL.


Agreed. Cam got credit for nurturing already-development Qb's, at every stop.

And you need to add 4. Not throwing darts for passes less than 30 yards.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 12/9/15 at 10:37 pm to
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Rick Grimes?


Coral!!! There's walkers everywhere!!!
Posted by vjp819
South Sec. 414 / Alex Box Sec. 210
Member since Nov 2003
10882 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 12:17 am to
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And you need to add 4. Not throwing darts for passes less than 30 yards.


true. that would fall on individual work during practice, and should by all means be noticed by the coaching staff and corrected, and it's not been fixed the whole year, after it's happened time, after time. what new, and productive are they coaching him in his game if they can't correct the most obvious errors he's making time and again? And people are upset over different plays not being called? we can't run the simplest of plays correctly, and we want something different. Even as kids we all learned to ride bikes before we could crawl right?
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
18645 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 5:46 am to
Grimes, O, and Wilson leave?

BDP, Cam, and Steele stay?

It would get mighty ugly around Red Stick City.
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
18645 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:02 am to
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Kevin Mawae OL coach


I'm another who doesn't understand all the excitement over Mawae.

When has he proven he would make a good OL coach?

An elite program shouldn't be hiring a coach with no experience at all for such a crucial position.

I know we've slipped from elite to the middle of the pack, but still ...
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10354 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:10 am to
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If we lose Orgeron or Wilson and retain Cam and BDP, this board will literally implode!!! You'd have to Hiroshima this place and start over....

I'm thinking Wilson.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7349 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:12 am to
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I think replacing Steele would be bigger than Cam, with the Caveat that Miles gets out of the way and Cam actually is allowed to call plays and put in the offensive game plans.


Give me a frickin break. There would be no difference in plays called if Miles called them. That said Miles is many things but not a liar. He said what I knew. He does not call the plays. If you go to any games bring binoculars and look for yourself.Sometimes he doesn't even talk into his mic. He said he does suggest plays.And I believe him. Cam is calling the plays which I'm sure Miles knows about what he'll call because of the plans put in place before the game. They are both cut from the same cloth.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4855 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:34 am to
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proving how uninformed of the schemes used, and why certain ones are used the way they are during the course of a game or a season makes me laugh even more.


Wait....weren't you trying to slam me earlier for leaving out a word in a sentence and saying I was uneducated? Wtf is this gibberish?

So now you want to shift to schemes, o' knowledgable one? Please enlighten us all on your years of sitting in your lazy boy studying film on Saturdays.

Your ignorance, as I originally pointed out, was in saying that Cam has never done any good with a quarterback unless he was NFL ready. That statement shows that you have no idea what those QBs did while under him, what college QBs he has worked with, and are either ignoring or are too clueless to see the progression of Harris this year (although he still has more to go, being as he has been playing football for a total of 4 years in his life), and what he did with Mett his last season. Y'all's hatred for all things Les Miles and his staff blinds y'all to any positives or rational thought.

Caveat....I'd love to see a different OC. I was just fine with seeing a different HC. However, that doesn't mean you go full retard and start making baseless shite up just because it makes you feel good.
Posted by PennyPacker
Where things are bigger and better
Member since Jan 2010
1046 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:50 am to
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. Cam can't coach quarterbacks who weren't good enough to be drafted into the NFL. He can't coach quarterbacks with high school experience or light college expierence AT ALL.


You do know he coached Jim Harbaugh, Elvis Grbac, Todd Collins, and Antwaan Randle El in college right? Then take into account he coached Gus Frerotte and Trent Green at Washington....both made the pro-bowl under his coaching. And Drew Brees was doing so poorly before he got to San Diego they drafted Rivers...but Cam Coached Brees up to a pro-bowl.

This is not to say there isn't room for improvement....there is always room for improvement. But dumb a$$ comments like this are just your opinion b/c you don't like the results (nor do I), maybe our production at QB is more complicated than the simple minded rantards care to acknowledge. Let's not take the easy answer and think it was just Cam's fault!
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
8749 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:57 am to
So what your saying is Grimes has not developed any quality depth behind his starting 5 with any of the 3 and 4 star recruits on the roster and 1 injury to 1 lineman completely threw him off. Now that's some coaching.
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
8749 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:57 am to
So what your saying is Grimes has not developed any quality depth behind his starting 5 with any of the 3 and 4 star recruits on the roster and 1 injury to 1 lineman completely threw him off. Now that's some coaching.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 6:59 am to
quote:

Stuff is happening with the staff. by BugaPainTrain7


Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9793 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:56 am to
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its Grimes btw


I dont think he's the guy people want to see leave... He's an excellent recruiter and his track record is stronger than most. He would be welcomed back at VA Tech in a second... Bad move if he is gone...Bet he is the fall guy for Cam...which would be BS...
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:07 am to
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g. When the plays are called the way they are because of the limitations of the quarterback position










This part is fact. I don't know about the rest. LSU once again does not have a QB
Posted by kensnippy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
323 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:10 am to
I agree...no qb once again. In my opinion there are three things that are keeping LSU from having good qb play:

1.) We recruit dual threat qbs for a pro-style pocket passer type offense
2.) The qbs we do get don't get the in-game reps throwing a variety of different passes like other teams. If you can't practice the passes you can't execute them when necessary...very simple.
3.) Seeing how LSU uses their qbs, what good qb would want to come to LSU?
Posted by the_watcher
Jarule's House
Member since Nov 2005
3451 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:40 am to
Let me get this straight - Grimes pulls 5 star Chidi-Okeke Valentine and 4 star Toby Weathersby at the 11th hour to go along with 5 star Maea Teuhema (who started more than half our games this year), 4 star George Brown from Ohio, and 4 star Adrian Magee in what is arguably our best offensive line class of all time - and you people want him gone?

What the frick is wrong with you people?
Posted by Andre
Cashier at Stein's Deli
Member since Apr 2009
4301 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:59 am to
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BDP, Cam, and Steele stay?





AND Peveto is set to get a raise. A RAISE!!! In any other line of work, a person who takes a product that was ranked 13th the year before , and it was now ranked 88th, that person usually gets disciplined.

here at LSU , they get rewarded.

Posted by RoaringTiger33
Member since Jun 2011
567 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:04 am to
Because while he recruits well he coaches for shite. This year was the worse line in Miles' tenure and it is directly attributed to Grimes' & his poor zone blocking scheme (the way he teaches technique, making calls, picking up blocks, etc).
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