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re: Stop comparing this to 2004 Troy. 2 big differences
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:08 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:08 am to SlowFlowPro
04: 24 - 20
08: 40 - 31
i don't see a blowout.
i will agree they should of never been down 31 - 3, but 04 should of never been down 20 - 17. It was a very sloppy game even more so then any other game this season, but the comparison is just a comparison of shitty play.
08: 40 - 31
i don't see a blowout.
i will agree they should of never been down 31 - 3, but 04 should of never been down 20 - 17. It was a very sloppy game even more so then any other game this season, but the comparison is just a comparison of shitty play.
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Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:08 am to SlowFlowPro
ok 2004
alexander 4* average
coleman 3* average
favorite 4* average
helms 3* good one
jackson 3* average
johnson 4* beast
quin 3* great
tremaine john 4* average
curtis taylor 3* average
lost wrotten, steltz, dorsey, chevis, hester, doucet, carter,
that is half of the 2004 class and some to me are a disapointment. I think some of the players miles recruited will end up being better at the respected postions.
Miles=saban
alexander 4* average
coleman 3* average
favorite 4* average
helms 3* good one
jackson 3* average
johnson 4* beast
quin 3* great
tremaine john 4* average
curtis taylor 3* average
lost wrotten, steltz, dorsey, chevis, hester, doucet, carter,
that is half of the 2004 class and some to me are a disapointment. I think some of the players miles recruited will end up being better at the respected postions.
Miles=saban
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:10 am to dreaux
did you just call tyson jackson average?
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:11 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Debatable.
best OL in the nation
quote:I think this has been shown to be false.
most talented DL in the nation
quote:Very debatable.
#1 or 2 group of RBs in the nation
quote:True, but with no QB to throw to them, does it matter?
one of the best groups of receivers in the nation
quote:"Solid" is open to interpretation. I say no way.
solid secondary
quote:Again, maybe not so much.
we're loaded
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:12 am to dreaux
One more thing...the '04 team had a bye week the week before they played Troy. The '08 team just lost an OT game to the #1 team the week before.
This post was edited on 11/16/08 at 11:12 am
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:12 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
most talented DL in the nation
nope
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:12 am to Ice Cold
quote:
I think this has been shown to be false.
just b/c our DCs have a horrible scheme, i'm not giving up
quote:
Very debatable.
no way
keiland would start on 90% of teams in the NCAA and scott is a beast. maybe the best RB in CFB this year
quote:
"Solid" is open to interpretation. I say no way.
again, scheme
any team will throw 5 yard passes against a 10 yard cushion
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:13 am to kclsufan
so you'd take 2004 LSU over 2008 LSU in a talent competition?
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:14 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I don't know. Can you read?
did you just call tyson jackson average?
again tyson looks AVERAGE to me
i would trade two jackson's for one alem.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:15 am to True Grit
quote:
NOW we arguably the most talented in the country.
But our talent at key positions is very raw. DBs, LBs, QB.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:16 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Saban was still building a program
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:16 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
so you'd take 2004 LSU over 2008 LSU in a talent competition?
No i think they are both even.
the 2005,06,07 are more talented by a little yes.
Like i said next year it should balance out.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:16 am to SlowFlowPro
2004 we were just as 'talented'
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:17 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
1. 2004 LSU, as a program, was not established like 2008 LSU is. Saban was still building a program and it didn't have the depth to deal with losing 3 key juniors and a bunch of seniors. 2008 does have that depth
2. 2008 Troy DOMINATED LSU FOR 75% OF THE GAME. 2004 Troy kept it close in a sloppy game where we turned it over. at no point did 2008 get dominated by 2004 Troy.
considering your orginal argument.
quote:
so you'd take 2004 LSU over 2008 LSU in a talent competition?
which would you take?
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:17 am to SlowFlowPro
A couple of points to make..
First of all...I think LSU really did have a hangover from that heartbreaker to Bama last week. The team just looked lethargic. I didnt really see much difference in defensive strategy after halftime, the guys were simply hustling alot more and looked alot quicker. The crossing routes were being covered alot better.
Second of all, this 2004 talent vs 2008 talent stuff is ridiculous. There simply isnt that much difference...and if teams like this year's Texas Tech, last years Missouri and Kansas, and previous Texas Tech teams can be great with 3-star talent, then it's really hard to nitpick whether or not our 3-deep had 4 and 5 star talent as opposed to 3-star talent. Who cares?
First of all...I think LSU really did have a hangover from that heartbreaker to Bama last week. The team just looked lethargic. I didnt really see much difference in defensive strategy after halftime, the guys were simply hustling alot more and looked alot quicker. The crossing routes were being covered alot better.
Second of all, this 2004 talent vs 2008 talent stuff is ridiculous. There simply isnt that much difference...and if teams like this year's Texas Tech, last years Missouri and Kansas, and previous Texas Tech teams can be great with 3-star talent, then it's really hard to nitpick whether or not our 3-deep had 4 and 5 star talent as opposed to 3-star talent. Who cares?
This post was edited on 11/16/08 at 11:19 am
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:18 am to cene
quote:
which would you take?
like to hear this myself.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:18 am to dreaux
quote:
No i think they are both even.
QB: even
RB: 2008
WR: 2008
OL: 2008
DL: 2008
LB: even
DB: 2004
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:18 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
people act like LSU lost more than it did. i believe we lose more next year
our OL will suffer a little, but that's about it. our DL will be fine, we have plenty of talent to step up.
meanwhile, our secondary is going to be SICK, and Lee will be a lot more poised next year.
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:18 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
. 2004 LSU, as a program, was not established like 2008 LSU is. Saban was still building a program and it didn't have the depth to deal with losing 3 key juniors and a bunch of seniors. 2008 does have that depth
Complete fail. This is like the third time you have said this. STOP!!!
At anypoint in LSU's career, it should NEVER be a close game with a Sunbelt team. So stop with the rebuilding bullshite!
Posted on 11/16/08 at 11:18 am to SlowFlowPro
i dont understand how they dominated us in the 2nd half at all.
they scored a TD on the first drive, and had like 1 first down the rest of the 2nd hal
75%???
they scored a TD on the first drive, and had like 1 first down the rest of the 2nd hal
75%???
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