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Stop blaming the Offensive Line. Its the Quarterback

Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:27 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27898 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:27 pm
Do you think Bamas line forgot how to play football last night? They gave up as many sacks in that 1 game than all year with Bryce Young. The QB fumbled twice and threw a pick, not because the OLine couldnt hold the blocks, or isnt talented enough

in 2011 LSU had an undefeated season thru 9 games, and then Miles switched QBs. By the end of the year, the same OLine wasnt suddenly the reason the team couldnt move the ball. It was the new QB, who had passing games of 88, 67, 53, and 30 yards. The play calls were changed because of who was passing the ball

In 2018 and 2019 you had essentially the same OLine at LSU. Yet in 2018 we were an above average SEC team, and 2019 might have been the greatest team in history. What changed was an offensive scheme that matched the passing talents of its QB. The QB made the line much better, not the other way around


If you have a QB that is gun shy, incapable of reading defenses pre or post snaps, cannot throw his WRs open, looks for run lanes first rather than progressions, and cant run a scheme that asks for him to throw quickly, then even the OLine for the #1 team in the nation wont help. As we saw last night with Bama
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
7295 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:28 pm to
Scheming around our weaknesses would help
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
21001 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:28 pm to
It can be both numb nuts. We lost our best guard and lt. Daniels is slow to make a decision and he got bum rushed multiple times due to line play.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94482 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:30 pm to
Why not both?
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47435 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:30 pm to
Our OL isn't good and has no depth. Losing another talented player was another negative. We badly lost the battle of the trenches yesterday.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54548 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:32 pm to
LSU has no running game at all. That doesn’t help the struggling QB. The run game has no creativity
Posted by xGODz
West Coast
Member since Sep 2022
179 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:32 pm to
He sits back there after 6 seconds has gone by all season.
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:34 pm to
Our Oline can't run block to save its life
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27898 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:34 pm to
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Scheming around our weaknesses would help

Thats our problem. Our QB has so many glaring weaknesses that there is no scheme

And they ran one QB off, and refuse to gives looks to any other ones

And we will be stuck with that mentality next year also. And possibly run off our 2 other QBs
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202829 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:36 pm to
So you didn’t watch the same game as the rest of us yesterday???? The Oline was horrible. Sorry that is a fact. But Daniels is not the answer.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27898 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:37 pm to
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Grant you, the vols did bring the kitchen sink a few times and it was lights out

All because they have film on our QB

The mindset to not switch something up is almost malpractice
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
2582 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:37 pm to
We have a QB?
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27898 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:42 pm to
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So you didn’t watch the same game as the rest of us yesterday????

Ive watched all the games. He simply cannot find WRs. The book is now out on him

Defenses will play close on the corner, bum rush the line, and spy the run lanes. JD will not overcome that
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66463 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:44 pm to
This is one of the dumbest posts I’ve seen in a while.

1. There were several sacks where the OL offered 0 resistance. No QB could have avoided them.

2. Blaming JJ solely for the 2011 line getting worked by Alabama is dumb. They just weren’t good enough to play Alabama. That’s why Lee looked like shite in the first match up: he was getting pressured and he is terrible under pressure.

3. Neithe this OL Nor the 2011 OL was
Moving the ball in the rush game. They were getting beat constantly. That’s on them.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27898 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:48 pm to
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SammyTiger

Almost everything you post is delusional, on all boards

I listed 4 games in 2011 where the QB couldnt get to 100 yards passing, and you try to single the most embarrassing as some kind of defense
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17878 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:48 pm to
I agree with the OP for the most part.

Our QB does absolutely nothing pre-snap to adjust blocking. The reason our 2019 OL went from being our weakest unit in the preseason to winning the national OL award was Burrow. He put them (and by extension the whole offense) in positions to succeed starting with pre-snap reads, motions, audibles.

Not asking for Burrow, but Daniels apparently isn't capable of any of it.
Posted by Tigerinasia
Natchitoches
Member since Jan 2008
1706 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:50 pm to
It’s both. Why is that hard to say?
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4469 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:51 pm to
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It was the new QB, who had passing games of 88, 67, 53, and 30 yards. The play calls were changed because of who was passing the ball

That offense was (minus JJ) was much more talented than our current O yet idiots here still compare JJ and JD. JD is far from great but he’s accomplishing more than JJ with less help.
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In 2018 and 2019 you had essentially the same OLine at LSU…. What changed was an offensive scheme that matched the passing talents of its QB. The QB made the line much better, not the other way around

And experience. The o-line and qb each had a year to grow. It’s amazing what that will do.
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then even the OLine for the #1 team in the nation wont help. As we saw last night with Bama

I’m still laughing at the thread from last night that was praising bama for scheming properly for a running qb.
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:51 pm to
Even when Daniels has time to throw he can not find one of the three open receivers. Give Daniels the 2019 O-line and he is still struggling.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10440 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 12:55 pm to
That’s a lot of scheming
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