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re: stop blaming CPM for the 2-2 Pitch out that was Dunn's call

Posted on 5/3/14 at 7:08 pm to
Posted by eman65
Member since Aug 2009
412 posts
Posted on 5/3/14 at 7:08 pm to
One hit in FIVE(5) innings!! Stop blaming Dunn.
Posted by tigernation56
im the woods
Member since Feb 2013
4889 posts
Posted on 5/3/14 at 7:14 pm to
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One hit in FIVE(5) innings!! Stop blaming Dunn.



guess dunn is the hitting coach too.
Posted by eman65
Member since Aug 2009
412 posts
Posted on 5/3/14 at 7:33 pm to
Your reading skills are good, comprehension not so much. Point of post, don't blame pitching.
Posted by tigernation56
im the woods
Member since Feb 2013
4889 posts
Posted on 5/3/14 at 7:46 pm to
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Your reading skills are good, comprehension not so much. Point of post, don't blame pitching.


point was trying to make is everyone else gets the blame,but hitting sucks.
Posted by Chadwick
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/3/14 at 7:46 pm to
LSU will win tomorrow, everyone will feel better and stop all the bitching.
Posted by eman65
Member since Aug 2009
412 posts
Posted on 5/3/14 at 7:48 pm to
Posted by eman65
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Posted on 5/3/14 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by Amazing Moves
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Posted on 5/3/14 at 8:17 pm to
Aggie domination









































today. Sorta
Posted by tigernation56
im the woods
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Posted on 5/3/14 at 8:25 pm to
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Aggie domination


Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/3/14 at 8:38 pm to
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Aggie domination


I bet that's the first time you've typed that.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25798 posts
Posted on 5/3/14 at 8:57 pm to
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Everything you say is invalid/worthless after you saying our bullpen is too young.




I said youth at the position. Perhaps I should have clarified but I was referring to new pitchers in their first year at LSU. We lost 8 pitchers from last year. I don't see how you can go after Dunn for a bunch of new guys that he hasn't had a great deal of time working with.

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I'll call him out on how shitty our bullpen has been.... so there.



Your desire to blame someone in every situation is sad and probably makes you a pretty unhappy person. Sometimes things just don't work out. For all you know, Dunn has done everything possible to improve our bullpen. Just a few weeks ago, our bullpen was the strongest part of our team in fact. So it seems a little too quick and emotional/irrational to attack Dunn at this point.
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 5/3/14 at 9:00 pm to
The only thing Aggies dominate are sheep
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 5/3/14 at 9:07 pm to
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If the runner doesn't go, which he didn't, then he is definitely going to be off on the pitch in a 3-2 count. That means you have just taken yourself out of the DP and a ball in the gap or down the line for sure scores the run. You want to avoid going 3-2 at all costs there


Exactly. Anyone that doesn't understand this is an idiot. It was stupid.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 5/3/14 at 9:08 pm to
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I don't care if it was Maineri, Dunn, Torre, Larussa, or freaking Connie Mack.....I don't think it was the right call in fact it bordered on idiocy


It is easy to second guess the call after you see the results, but if the second pitch out would have worked this thread would not even have been started. It would have been, gutsy call by CPM or Dunn.

Unlike yesterday's game, fact is, we didn't deserve to win today period end of story. TAMU out played us the entire game, out hit and out pitched us. Tip your hat to them It happens turn the page and move on, that is baseball.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/3/14 at 9:41 pm to
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Exactly. Anyone that doesn't understand this is an idiot. It was stupid.


Do you understand the concept of risk/reward? Throwing back to back pitchouts has worked several times this year. The reward there is obviously getting the game winning base runner out. The risk is getting a full count to your pitcher. At that point, you have to have faith in your pitcher to throw strikes. McCune is not the best pitcher in the world but he doesn't typically have control problems.
Posted by josh336
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/4/14 at 7:53 am to
We have called 2 pitchouts in a row quite a few times this season. It has worked more than it hasnt. Actually, this might be the first time i can remember it not working
Posted by UpToPar
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/4/14 at 11:56 am to
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Do you understand the concept of risk/reward? Throwing back to back pitchouts has worked several times this year. The reward there is obviously getting the game winning base runner out. The risk is getting a full count to your pitcher. At that point, you have to have faith in your pitcher to throw strikes. McCune is not the best pitcher in the world but he doesn't typically have control problems.



It's not just about going 3-2 because you may walk him. Sure, that's part of it, but the other problem is 3-2 puts the runner in motion taking away the double play and allowing a ball in the gap or down the lines to win the game. I was fine with the call at 1-2, but after that, go get your batter. If he steals he steals and it's just as if the batter had sac bunted him over. Assuming you can get the batter out, A&M still needs to come up with a hit to win the game.
Posted by BillF
New York, New York
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 5/4/14 at 12:44 pm to
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It's not just about going 3-2 because you may walk him. Sure, that's part of it, but the other problem is 3-2 puts the runner in motion taking away the double play and allowing a ball in the gap or down the lines to win the game


I'm new to this thread, but there were no outs when the pitchouts were called, right? If so, it's certainly not a given that the runner is running on a 3-2 count. In fact, it's more likely that he's not running, since you risk a "strike him out, throw him out," running yourself right out of the inning. Two outs, he's moving, maybe with one out, but not likely with no outs.
Posted by Merlin08
Member since Apr 2012
1760 posts
Posted on 5/4/14 at 3:59 pm to
I guess Dunn is the reason for the shotty base running too right? Who steals a guy that has been sitting on the bench all game when the guy who hit the earlier homerun for you is up to bat? This team is as badly coached as Tulane!
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22282 posts
Posted on 5/4/14 at 4:01 pm to
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I'm new to this thread, but there were no outs when the pitchouts were called, right? If so, it's certainly not a given that the runner is running on a 3-2 count. In fact, it's more likely that he's not running, since you risk a "strike him out, throw him out," running yourself right out of the inning. Two outs, he's moving, maybe with one out, but not likely with no outs.



With your best base stealer, you are running on a 3-2 count. Not too many catchers are able to throw a guy out especially after a swing and miss. The guy did end up stealing on the 3-2 pitch as well.
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