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re: Spring baseball stats through 6 scrimmages
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:23 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:23 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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I just wanted him to finally answer the question that he hasn't been to a single scrimmage, yet he's speaking in absolutes like he has seen Neal play a single inning of baseball.
So tell me, is he a bad catcher.
And I mean below average.
Otherwise maybe go frick yourself.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 5:25 pm
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:24 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Quite the leap from saying he’s not as good of a receiver as Milazzo. If you’re going to strawman, be less obvious.
bad catcher
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:25 pm to ell_13
I never Said he was as good.
I said He probably better overall because Milazzo is a bad hitter.
I said He probably better overall because Milazzo is a bad hitter.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:29 pm to SammyTiger
There is no overall in this scenario though. You will need Milazzo to catch and use his arm. You will also need Neal and even Travinski who everyone is sleeping on. IMO, I think we use Milazzo more because of how good our pitching will be to keep teams down and how good our offense will be with no holes and someone like him still being able to provide positive ABs. When we play Tennessee, there may only be 6 runs all weekend total. You’re going with defense there for nearly the whole game and only PH late in a critical situation and it’s probably not even Neal as the PH.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:32 pm to ell_13
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There is no overall in this scenario though.
Of course there is. That’s a dumb thing to say.
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You will need Milazzo to catch and use his arm.
I didnt say cut the guy.
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You will also need Neal and even Travinski who everyone is sleeping on.
Travinski is just a bad catcher. He’s a hitter that’s stuck there to get him in the lineup but he’s rough behind the plate.
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IMO, I think we use Milazzo more because of how good our pitching will be to keep teams down and how good our offense will be with no holes and someone like him still being able to provide positive ABs.
He just can’t do that all the time. His best scenario is being able to lay down a sac bunt and that’s obviously super situational.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:42 pm to SammyTiger
quote:The dumb thing is you thinking it’s black and white when you’ve never seen Neal play. If we are playing the best team in the country for three straight days with 3 of the best starting pitchers in the country and the expectation that they will be low scoring games, who do you think Jay goes with based on what he has said as recently as last week? You said you’re basing your opinion on what he says right? I’m not saying we don’t use Neal or even that we definitely won’t start him that weekend. But against the best teams, there seems to be a preference by Jay. Does that mean he’s better overall? Or that Neal isn’t good enough to handle it? I don’t think it’s that simple.
Of course there is. That’s a dumb thing to say.
quote:He’s needed work at receiving. But he is perfectly capable at handling a staff and the running game.
Travinski is just a bad catcher. He’s a hitter that’s stuck there.
quote:Now you’re just being emotional. As if he can’t get a single hit at all.
He just can’t do that all the time. His best scenario is being able to lay down a sack hunt
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:43 pm to lsufball19
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mean do you want me to name more guys. I didn't have to stop at 7.
Ya, and find the ones that never improved either. And list them out. Because it’s never a one sided thing. And comparing them to higher caliber players is such a poor example of what you are trying to prove.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:46 pm to ell_13
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Now you’re just being emotional. As if he can’t get a single hit at all.
Statistically he is extremely unlikely to. This isn’t emotion.
This is black and white numbers. His BA sucks. His OBP would probably suck more if he didn’t sack bunt as much as he does.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:48 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Statistically, your “extreme” is only a 10% difference.
Statistically he is extremely unlikely to.
quote:He has as many SHs as Neal this spring and it’s only 2. It’s not “that much.”
His BA sucks. His OBP would probably suck more if he didn’t sack bunt as much as he does.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:49 pm to Lester Earl
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find the ones that never improved either
Players never improving doesn’t happen a lot, bud.
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And comparing them to higher caliber players
People thought Kramer and Stevenson were high caliber players after their freshman seasons? Are you drunk or too balls deep in your argument at this point?
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:51 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:51 pm to SammyTiger
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His OBP would probably suck more if he didn’t sack bunt as much as he does.
Oh boy
Posted on 2/7/23 at 5:54 pm to lsufball19
Kramer hurt a lot of poster’s egos every time he got on base in 16/17.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:00 pm to lsufball19
I mean a lot of people thought Kramer would hit. He had good underlying numbers
Stevenson was almost immediately better as a sophomore after starting 33g as a freshman. And had the speed calling card that always made him a threat. It didn’t take him 70 starts into his 4th year to improve
Stevenson was almost immediately better as a sophomore after starting 33g as a freshman. And had the speed calling card that always made him a threat. It didn’t take him 70 starts into his 4th year to improve
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:01 pm to Lester Earl
It did take a complete swing change over the summer though.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:08 pm to Lester Earl
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I mean a lot of people thought Kramer would hit
bruhquote:
It didn’t take him 70 starts into his 4th year to improve
He had 120 ABs his freshman year.
You do realize that 70 games is barely more than a season’s worth of games, right?
Milazzo came in during COVID, had a shortened season due to COVID, no summer ball during COVID, played one bad season, and had his third year end barely after it started. Continuing to post “he’s had almost 70 starts” as if it is overly persuasive is amazing. 56 regular season games, the SECT, and the NCAAT basically gets you 70 games. So he’s had a season’s worth of ABs spread over 3 years and his development interrupted by three hitting coach changes, a season long injury, and a pandemic. Call me crazy, but that’s probably going to hurt a guy who needs more development than others
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And had the speed calling card that always made him a threat.
Threat to what? Play defense and run the bases? What does that have to do with the propensity of him improving his BA by .200 points in a year?
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 6:11 pm
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:14 pm to Lester Earl
Let's simplify this. Each catcher's team is about even on runs scored and given up. We can guess that Milazzo has taken some runs away (stolen strikes, limited stolen bases/passed balls, etc), but given little offensively. We can also guess that Neal is probably behind defensively, but clearly better offensively. Therefore, it will be how Jay wants to handle the position on a given night until one of them close the gap (or it widens). If Milazzo still has no pulse on offense, can Neal close the gap on defense or widen the gap offensively? If Neal struggles on defense, can Milazzo hit a bit more or widen the gap on defense? It still may end up being a dead heat, doing your homework on your opponent, and projecting the game flow.
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:18 pm to lsufball19
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You do realize that 70 games is barely more than a season’s worth of games, right?
Over 3 different seasons & with 2 off seasons worth of data that says he cannot hit & has not improved.
Gawd damn this is the second season in a row y’all have no clue how to judge sample size
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:19 pm to DRock88
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It still may end up being a dead heat, doing your homework on your opponent, and projecting the game flow.
That’s essentially what Jay said on Mahtooks show yesterday with how he’ll put together basically the whole lineup outside Crews, Morgan, Thompson (yes Thompson), and White
Posted on 2/7/23 at 6:19 pm to Lester Earl
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y’all have no clue how to judge sample size
ok
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