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re: Sporting News: Edward Jim Orgeron Jr. is the 15th best coach in America

Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:26 am to
Posted by la_birdman
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:26 am to
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Madking




You've been gone for a while but Ben is trying to turn a new leaf and not make things so confrontational as he used to do.


Seriously, not a joke. Just a suggestion but back off a little. He's not trying to start stuff.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 2:34 am
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:28 am to
I wasn’t attacking him I merely said that the 2015 offense didn’t have “several” NFL stars. He couldn’t accept being wrong so he’s gone into mental gymnastics and false claims so he doesn’t have to admit that he used that term to favor the 2018 team after saying they’re too close to compare. I mean cmon I could’ve jumped all over that but instead I simply said the 2015 offense didn’t have several NFL stars so he could catch his own mistake. I didn’t attack him
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 2:30 am
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:30 am to
I'm also not understanding the comparisons of the two offenses to begin with. Is it just an arbitrary out of the blue pick to compare or did we have an objective reason to compare the two because you couldn't have come up with a more mirror image if you tried.
Posted by la_birdman
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:32 am to
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Lonnie said the 2015 offense was more productive than the 2018 team. Jeaux came up with some numbers (from ESPN) that showed the 2018 offense gained a little over 600 yards more and scored 5 more TDs for the season.

Mot gave him a link to lsusports.net that shows the 2015 offense actually had 20 more yards than the '18 team did and the discrepancy was that the ESPN site didn't include the 2015 bowl game, but did include the bowl game for the 2018 team.

Jeaux got offended, then the usual stuff started up with the name calling and whatnot and here we are



This is what all this is about. Not being a jerk, this is what this has been about for the last few pages.
Posted by la_birdman
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:37 am to
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I wasn’t attacking him



You're right. That was poor phrasing on my part.


What I'm saying is he's admitted he's been a hard head and he's trying to do better. That's all. Not saying I agree with every post he makes but he's trying to be better than he used to be.


That's all I was getting at.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:39 am to
Well technically the 2015 offense was more productive. Not much more but more. The 2018 offense while not a dumpster fire wasn't anything to write home about. I'll always wonder about the Sullivan hire. He gave an interview at the end of the season that floored me concerning the offense and blocking schemes.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:41 am to
Yea I posted with him yesterday I believe. We agreed on some issues involving Miles and differed on some of the details but no argument. But trying to take the high road when you were wrong then tried to twist reality instead of admitting it right after judging someone else for doing the exact same thing isn’t good behavior or civility, it’s the opposite when you try to flip it on the person who pointed out the mistake. I mean if you or I make a mistake on a roster and the other points it out usually the response is “my bad” and it’s over but not with this guy, he can’t be wrong.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 2:43 am
Posted by la_birdman
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:42 am to
In any event, Weirdo Joe is the reason this thread has been derailed for the last few pages. All this could've been avoided if he would've just said, "I made a mistake or I messed up or gosh you are right" But he had to whine, go to extremes like we all hate O and then belittle those who were just pointing out that he made an error, like he always does. He didn't like the stats that LSU has so he told MOT to f himself, or F off, or whatever.


Anyway, it's done now. But he'll be back and he'll pick up right where he left off.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 2:47 am
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:48 am to
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event, Weirdo Joe is the reason this thread has been derailed for the last few pages. All this could've been avoided if he would've just said, "I made a mistake." But he had to whine, go to extremes like we all hate O and try to belittle those who were in fact pointing out that he made an error, like he always does.


Anyway, it's done now. But he'll be back and he'll pick up right where he left off



Not defending anyone or downing any entity but why would ESPN count the bowl game in one instance and not count it in the other?
Posted by la_birdman
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:51 am to
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ESPN count the bowl game in one instance and not count it in the other?



A better question would is why be so insistent on using it? Why use a site that the guy obviously hates but in this case, he's all about it.


What's wrong with the records that are actually kept at LSU by the athletic department?
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 2:55 am
Posted by earl keese
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:58 am to
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Exactly. But he doesn't operate that way. When he's proven wrong he does one of two things:


1. He blames others for his misinterpretation. Thus, making him look even more foolish, by his own doing.


2. He simply leaves because he can't do what you stated in the above quote.


But for some reason he continues with his routine and then continues having his little hissy fits.



Yeah, Jeaux's a real piece of work. I've told him on more than one occasion that he brings the heat on himself with the way he acts.

Oh well.

I gotta believe he's a really young man (early twenties) or just a kid who doesn't know how to interact with others.

But hey, who am I to judge.
Posted by la_birdman
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:04 am to
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he brings the heat on himself with the way he acts.



But we're all trying to discredit him. Crap, he does that on his own. The other day he accused me of lying and I was quoting posts that he made. So he's basically calling himself a liar.



This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 3:12 am
Posted by earl keese
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:09 am to
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I'm also not understanding the comparisons of the two offenses to begin with.


You know how this goes. One side says something, the other side counters it and before you know it, we got the Hatfields and McCoys feuding in the thread.

quote:

Is it just an arbitrary out of the blue pick to compare or did we have an objective reason to compare the two because you couldn't have come up with a more mirror image if you tried.


Jeaux said something about we weren't gonna compete for the playoffs with Miles offense, and Lonnie said we weren't competing now either. Something was said about the 2015 offense being more productive, Jeaux produced incorrect stats saying the 2018 offense was better, and then when he was corrected, he didn't take too kindly to it.

A few pages later, and lots of name calling, Jeaux signed off like normal.

Oh well.
Posted by la_birdman
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:11 am to
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Jeaux said something about we weren't gonna compete for the playoffs with Miles offense, and Lonnie said we weren't competing now either. Something was said about the 2015 offense being more productive, Jeaux produced incorrect stats saying the 2018 offense was better, and then when he was corrected, he didn't take too kindly to it.

A few pages later, and lots of name calling, Jeaux signed off like normal.



That's it in a nutshell.
Posted by earl keese
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:13 am to
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A better question would is why be so insistent on using it?


Who knows why he insisted on using it, except for the fact that it bolstered his argument

quote:

Why use a site that the guy obviously hates but in this case, he's all about it.


That's the funny thing about this whole mess in my opinion. He bad mouthed the hell out of ESPN a few days ago, then tonight wants to use them to make his case.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:15 am to
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He bad mouthed the hell out of ESPN a few days ago, then tonight wants to use them to make his case.



Yep. Not sure if the guy is operating on all cylinders. He says I'm lying when I'm quoting posts that he made. I mean, really?
Posted by earl keese
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:16 am to
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But we're all trying to discredit him. Crap, he does that on his own. The other day he accused me of lying and I was quoting posts that he made. So he's basically calling himself a liar.


I remember that. Funny stuff.

I also thought it was funny tonight when you said nobody was talking about o and he jumped you because he mentioned o in his post that you had responded to.

He was the only person to mention o. And it was only in that one post.
Posted by earl keese
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:28 am to
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Not sure if the guy is operating on all cylinders.


I don't think he is. Might need a tune up. Or a major overhaul.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:03 am to
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better question would is why be so insistent on using it? Why use a site that the guy obviously hates but in this case, he's all about it.


What's wrong with the records that are actually kept at LSU by the athletic department



He may not have known any better. Sometimes you can bce a little too dependent on Google. Or he saw the discrepancy and he chose to use it because of the difference. Either way I bet he'll use the LSU athletic department in the future.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32137 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:11 am to
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He may not have known any better.


Giving him the benefit of the doubt has passed. The guy was certain he was right, he in fact was proven wrong, and he had his little fit like he always does.


When he acknowledged that he was wrong, he made a personal attack and then made another because he was still pissy, instead of doing exactly what you and everyone else was saying he should've done and just say, "I messed up. I made a mistake."


He knew he was incorrect. Like always. He whines about people trying to discredit his opinions when he does it on his own.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 4:14 am
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