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re: Sporting News: Edward Jim Orgeron Jr. is the 15th best coach in America
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:21 am to bencoleman
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:21 am to bencoleman
“several future NFL stars”
No NFL stars on the 2015 offense. Fournette had a solid rookie season and a terrible second season and he’s the only one that could be mistaken for an NFL Star so saying they had “several” of these is just not true.
No NFL stars on the 2015 offense. Fournette had a solid rookie season and a terrible second season and he’s the only one that could be mistaken for an NFL Star so saying they had “several” of these is just not true.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 1:22 am
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:27 am to Madking
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No NFL stars on the 2015 offense. Fournette had a solid rookie season and a terrible second season and he’s the only one that could be mistaken for an NFL Star so saying they had “several” of these is just not true
My mistake I thought that there were several guys that play on Sunday on that team.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:28 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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You turds will be ghosts/ Too funny.
unlike you,we all were fans of lsu before O and will be after
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:32 am to bencoleman
“My mistake I thought that there were several guys that play on Sunday on that team.”
And they did have plenty of guys who play on Sunday as does the 2018 group but that isn’t what you said. You said the 2015 offense had “several NFL stars”. That’s what you said now don’t go down this road again plz.
And they did have plenty of guys who play on Sunday as does the 2018 group but that isn’t what you said. You said the 2015 offense had “several NFL stars”. That’s what you said now don’t go down this road again plz.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 1:34 am
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:37 am to bencoleman
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Let me ask a silly question?
Considering that the numbers are so close to one another wouldn't it be reasonable to conclude that the offenses are almost mirror images of one another in production and further comparison for the purposes of who had a better offense is useless and not productive.
The numbers are extremely close to one another. You'd have to go back to page 80 (I believe) to get the jest of what's going on. Lonnie said the 2015 offense was more productive than the 2018 team. Jeaux came up with some numbers (from ESPN) that showed the 2018 offense gained a little over 600 yards more and scored 5 more TDs for the season.
Mot gave him a link to lsusports.net that shows the 2015 offense actually had 20 more yards than the '18 team did and the discrepancy was that the ESPN site didn't include the 2015 bowl game, but did include the bowl game for the 2018 team.
Jeaux got offended, then the usual stuff started up with the name calling and whatnot and here we are.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:41 am to Madking
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they did have plenty of guys who play on Sunday as does the 2018 group but that isn’t what you said. You said the 2015 offense had “several NFL stars”. That’s what you said now don’t go down this road of lies and double talk again plz
I'm being civil with you as I'm being with everyone but this has nothing to do with lies or double talk. At the most an NFL star could be anyone that's made a roster and plays on Sunday. At the least it could've been a poor choice of words but at no point did it reach the level of a deliberate lie or double talk.
After checking the 2015 roster I feel comfortable saying that the 2015 team had the benefit of several future NFL guys on the offense. Several on defense too but that's probably evened out. The 2018 defense has plenty of guys that will play Sunday's.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:47 am to bencoleman
“At the most an NFL star could be anyone that's made a roster and plays on Sunday.”
This is 100% incorrect and you know it. A Star isn’t someone who just makes a roster and by defending your statement while attempting to change its meaning you prove what I said earlier. (Double talk)
“After checking the 2015 roster I feel comfortable saying that the 2015 team had the benefit of several future NFL guys on the offense. Several on defense too but that's probably evened out. The 2018 defense has plenty of guys that will play Sunday's.”
And again so does the 2018 group so it’s a mute point and the fact you continue to invoke the defense when talking about offense once again proves you’re trying to muddy the waters and detract from your original charge which was incorrect or false whichever appears more civil to you.
The point is your statement was false “the 2015 offense had several NFL stars” is incorrect and 100% false period. It’s not a crime you’re just wrong here.
This is 100% incorrect and you know it. A Star isn’t someone who just makes a roster and by defending your statement while attempting to change its meaning you prove what I said earlier. (Double talk)
“After checking the 2015 roster I feel comfortable saying that the 2015 team had the benefit of several future NFL guys on the offense. Several on defense too but that's probably evened out. The 2018 defense has plenty of guys that will play Sunday's.”
And again so does the 2018 group so it’s a mute point and the fact you continue to invoke the defense when talking about offense once again proves you’re trying to muddy the waters and detract from your original charge which was incorrect or false whichever appears more civil to you.
The point is your statement was false “the 2015 offense had several NFL stars” is incorrect and 100% false period. It’s not a crime you’re just wrong here.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 1:51 am
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:49 am to earl keese
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Mot gave him a link to lsusports.net that shows the 2015 offense actually had 20 more yards than the '18 team did and the discrepancy was that the ESPN site didn't include the 2015 bowl game, but did include the bowl game for the 2018 team.
Jeaux got offended, then the usual stuff started up with the name calling and whatnot and here we are
I knew that there had to be some kind of backstory to it all because Jeaux seemed a little emotionally invested and a little bent out of shape. It would've been easier just to say my mistake and move past it. Especially when they're so close to one another on the surface.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 1:58 am to Madking
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the most an NFL star could be anyone that's made a roster and plays on Sunday
This is you cherrypicking my post. You left out a very important statement.
I said "at the least it's a poor choice of words"
That statement should be clear to anyone. There's no attempt to muddy any waters.
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This is 100% incorrect and you know it.
I don't know that it isn't correct at all. The argument can be made that if you've made it to the big time then you've made it. I guess it's your personal definition.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:02 am to bencoleman
Stars are all-stars or all-pros or pro- bowl players buddy but you know this you’re just trying to parse words and split hairs so you don’t have to admit you made an incorrect statement. You wouldn’t call Travin Dural an NFL Star and if you would argue that every single person you said it to would laugh at you and you know this. Stop being dishonest dude it’s so tired and played out.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 2:05 am
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:12 am to Madking
My apologies as I accidentally pushed the submit button.
I feel confident in saying that the 2015 group has more people playing Sunday so it's not a moot point.
I mentioned both defenses as having multiple NFL talents so I don't see how anyone could get that I was attempting to muddy any waters. if anything it was an attempt at diplomacy that failed.
And finally we get here. No my statement wasn't false at all. It was reasonable, non confrontational and as truthful as I could make it with the possibility of a poor choice of words being star when a better choice would've maybe been player.
I stand behind my original post as being the truth.
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And again so does the 2018 group so it’s a mute point
I feel confident in saying that the 2015 group has more people playing Sunday so it's not a moot point.
I mentioned both defenses as having multiple NFL talents so I don't see how anyone could get that I was attempting to muddy any waters. if anything it was an attempt at diplomacy that failed.
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The point is your statement was false “the 2015 offense had several NFL stars” is incorrect and 100% false period
And finally we get here. No my statement wasn't false at all. It was reasonable, non confrontational and as truthful as I could make it with the possibility of a poor choice of words being star when a better choice would've maybe been player.
I stand behind my original post as being the truth.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:12 am to bencoleman
“I don't know that it isn't correct at all. The argument can be made that if you've made it to the big time then you've made it. I guess it's your personal definition. “
This is also a phony cover up statement. You said “NFL stars” not someone a normal working stiff would consider a personal hero or star athlete. That’s a completely different level of judgement and you also know that too. It’s not a personal definition you just once again tried to change what you said.
This is also a phony cover up statement. You said “NFL stars” not someone a normal working stiff would consider a personal hero or star athlete. That’s a completely different level of judgement and you also know that too. It’s not a personal definition you just once again tried to change what you said.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:15 am to bencoleman
Lol but it isn’t the truth it’s the opposite of the truth. What you said about the offenses being similar enough to not argue over was true but you had to throw in that phony comment to give the edge to the regime you prefer undoing everything you just said. Seriously dude, I mean wow you just posted that all Buckeye had to do was admit he made a mistake and you turn around and start the same exact argument. Amazing
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:16 am to Madking
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Stars are all-stars or all-pros or pro- bowl players
So to be considered an NFL star you have to be a star among the stars.
I reject that and say that you're just wrong.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 2:17 am
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:20 am to bencoleman
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Jeaux seemed a little emotionally invested and a little bent out of shape.
In my opinion, Jeaux always seems a emotionally invested and bent out of shape.
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It would've been easier just to say my mistake and move past it
I agree.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:20 am to bencoleman
You said the 2015 offense had “several NFL stars” to show that they had an advantage in talent. You then said the 2018 group would likely have a bunch of players who would play in the NFL, so why aren’t they stars if everyone who makes the NFL is a star? Why would you use the phrase “NFL stars” to show that 2015 had the advantage in talent when the 2018 would also have by your definition “several NFL Stars” too? See you can’t crawfish or try to change the definition to cover up the false statement because of the purpose you used it for. Sorry pal you’re busted.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 2:22 am
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:21 am to bencoleman
“It would've been easier just to say my mistake and move past it”
Take your own advice buddy
Take your own advice buddy
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:22 am to Madking
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, I mean wow you just posted that all Buckeye had to do was admit he made a mistake and you turn around and start the same exact argument. Amazing
Further conversation with you is useless. my intention was not to get into an argument but have a discussion. Some people aren't interested in discussion and aren't equipped to do so. They're here to argue.
You'll have to find someone else to argue with and trade insults or name calling with. I'm tired of it and don't want to participate. When and if you decide to have a discussion let me know.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:23 am to bencoleman
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It would've been easier just to say my mistake and move past it.
Exactly. But he doesn't operate that way. When he's proven wrong he does one of two things:
1. He blames others for his misinterpretation. Thus, making him look even more foolish, by his own doing.
2. He simply leaves because he can't do what you stated in the above quote.
But for some reason he continues with his routine and then continues having his little hissy fits.
Posted on 6/21/19 at 2:24 am to bencoleman
Not once have I insulted you, anytime you’re proven wrong you resort to making false claims against the person who calls you on it. I’ve caught you doing this and exposed it literally half a dozen times so like I said take your own advice stop projecting and act like a man for once.
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 2:26 am
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