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re: Sporting News: Edward Jim Orgeron Jr. is the 15th best coach in America
Posted on 6/23/19 at 6:01 am to TigerLunatik
Posted on 6/23/19 at 6:01 am to TigerLunatik
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I had my concerns last season with the idea of building the offense from scratch that O wanted to run, but as you say, this year will tell us what we need to know. So, I think that alone makes it pretty exciting
I was confident that Steve could and would install the offense. My confidence was obviously misplaced. I'm not sure but at some point in the process somebody must've thrown up their hands up and said frick it we're going to have to have some help. I also believe that they're doing it the right way too. Bring the guy in as passing game coordinator, let him handle the passing game, and learn the offensive coordinator job for a year or so under Steve. Then when Steve retires he steps seamlessly into the role. Also for unexpected losses of attrition we have a pool of analysts who are ready to go at any time. Again I don't see how people can't see that LSU is being set up to compete at a high level for a long time.
It's my belief that LSU is in good hands moving forward. I don't understand how people can't see it.
This post was edited on 6/23/19 at 10:48 am
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Posted on 6/23/19 at 7:46 am to bencoleman
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It's my belief that LSU is in good hands moving forward. I don't understand how people can't see it.
In fairness, there was a lot of this thinking last year as well. My hope is that Ensminger is going to trust his playmakers way more in 2019. If I have a concern, it's what is he going to do on crucial downs that ate obvious game shifting plays. Is going to revert back to what he knows from his years of experience (which I believe is a natural human trait) or is he going to use some of the newly implemented stuff from Joe Brady in attempt to move the chains. This probably the number one thing that I will be keeping an eye out for early in the season.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 7:49 am to bencoleman
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Bring the guy in as passing game coordinator, let him handle the passing game, and learn the defensive coordinator job for a year or so under Steve.
So one year of grooming under E, a handful of years from coaching LB’s at a directional school, no play calling experience, no OC experience and he’ll be O’s offensive coordinator in 2020. Woof.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 8:09 am to Damone
I tend to agree with you about Brady being the savior of the program in year 1. He's never done what he's being asked to do here yet. However, Ensminger has a lot experience with this and at the very least he can teach Brady a lot the day in and day out stuff as well some orginazational things daily, weekly and yearly that should really help him grow as a college coach fairly quickly. It just remains to be seen how well he picks those things up and how well he implements them and how he can communicate it to the players. Sounds like he made needs some tips on recruiting, but I'm not positive about that. It just isn't my world.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 8:40 am to Damone
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So one year of grooming under E, a handful of years from coaching LB’s at a directional school, no play calling experience, no OC experience and he’ll be O’s offensive coordinator in 2020. Woof.
Yeah kinda like Dabo being a no named young inexperienced coach and taking over as head coach of Clemson with no head coaching experience or coordinator experience. Woof
Posted on 6/23/19 at 8:42 am to fOrEvErLsU1987
I believe we consider that to be an outlier and not the rule.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 8:46 am to fOrEvErLsU1987
So O lied when he said he’d go out and hire the best coordinators available?
Posted on 6/23/19 at 8:50 am to fOrEvErLsU1987
Dabo was a GA fifteen years prior to being a HC. He was an offensive position coach at Alabama for 5 years. He was a position coach and associate head coach at Clemson for a total of six years. That’s at least of 11 years of offensive experience at the positional and associate HC level. How does that compare to Brady’s resume?
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:05 am to TigerLunatik
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I believe we consider that to be an outlier and not the rule.
So is Sean McVay.
As coach:
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2008)
Assistant wide receivers coach
Florida Tuskers (2009)
Quality control/wide receivers coach
Washington Redskins (2010-2016)
- Assistant tight ends coach (2010)
- Tight ends coach (2011-2013)
- Offensive coordinator (2014-2016)
Los Angeles Rams (2017–present)
Head coach
His rise is insane and he's only 33.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:14 am to BayouCowboy
Well, we all obviously hope it turns out that way. I wonder what the percentages are of these kind of situations that absolutely flopped.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:22 am to TigerLunatik
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Well, we all obviously hope it turns out that way. I wonder what the percentages are of these kind of situations that absolutely flopped.
I was agreeing and showing another outlier. I think McVay's meteoric rise is even more impressive than Dabo's.
None of us know whether Brady will be savior, failure or inconsequential.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:22 am to fOrEvErLsU1987
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Yeah kinda like Dabo being a no named young inexperienced coach and taking over as head coach of Clemson with no head coaching experience or coordinator experience. Woof
And Dabo was a very unpopular choice for a couple of years.
Of course, the fans always know more than the professionals.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:25 am to RogerTheShrubber
Jeaux Brady is a combination of Dabo and Sean McVay. If Ceauxch Oeaux knows what’s good for him he’d watch his back IMO.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:30 am to BayouCowboy
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None of us know whether Brady will be savior, failure or inconsequential.
We are in total agreement here and this has been my position all along. I have no doubt that the offense will change. But, I'm not ready to assume production from that change before we play a game. Obviously we all hope is wildly successful. But, we've changed the offense every season O has been here so far and he's had his handprints all over it in the first two years. We'll see if that continues in 2019.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:31 am to RogerTheShrubber
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And Dabo was a very unpopular choice for a couple of years.
Of course, the fans always know more than the professionals.
I would add that he wasn't expected to make a change to a playoff team in year one. That's what is expected from Brady and E.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
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And Dabo was a very unpopular choice for a couple of years.
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CBS’s online site ranked Swinney third on a list of ACC coaches on the hot seat entering the 2012 season. The site noted, “Swinney has lost three straight to cross-state rival South Carolina, by an average of 20 points. He’s 1-3 in bowls capped off by the 70-33 debacle in the Orange Bowl. (Sammy) Watkins won’t be around long, and some might see Swinney’s window of opportunity closing if they don’t produce this season.”
LINK
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:49 am to The First Cut
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Despite an ACC championship and another Atlantic Division title in three full seasons as Clemson’s head coach Dabo Swinney doesn’t have great job security, according to various media outlets and some sports radio in the state of South Carolina.
Man if O got a $500,000 raise and 2 year extension for back to back 3rd place finishes in the division, I wonder how big the raise and extension would be with a conference championship and/or division championship.
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:54 am to tandrews37
2019 is officially the year of the “Passing Game Coordinator”
Posted on 6/23/19 at 9:55 am to tandrews37
Swinney signed a contract extension two months before that hot seat story was published.
Contract extensions are about recruiting. This board makes way too much over it.
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The team took a big tumble in 2010, falling to 6-7 for the school’s first losing season in 12 years and Swinney’s coaching seat was as hot as anyone’s heading into this past season.
Contract extensions are about recruiting. This board makes way too much over it.
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