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re: Spinoff: LSU will be screwed under the "playoff" system

Posted on 10/18/13 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15087 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 7:20 pm to
I agree that the committee is a bad idea, unless you want it rigged as an affirmative action program for CFB. I disagree about letting one from each conference play because some conferences have more good teams than other e.g. SEC vis-a-vis the Big 10, ACC et al. It should be about the best teams. The bowls could help sort that out inasmuch as teams from different conferences would play each other. That would weed out the "Conference Champs" pretenders.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15087 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 7:24 pm to
Write it down. This committee selection process will be nothing more than giving everyone an opportunity whether they deserve it or not. ND did not belong in the game last year.
Posted by TigerattheU
Member since Aug 2006
3494 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

We're supposed to be living in a free society, with freedom of speech and all.

Never seen someone go First Amendment on the preseason poll discussion. He's proposing the polls change their policy, not censoring the press.
This post was edited on 10/19/13 at 4:37 am
Posted by FleuryNipples
Member since Apr 2012
2869 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 8:13 pm to
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keep BCS poll. Play off of the top 4


This!!!!

Why the frick didn't they do this...
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
3630 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 8:32 pm to
Selection committee members:

Chairman: Jeff Long, AD Arkansas (shocker that they chose an SEC rep to chair)
Pat Haden- AD USC
Tom Jernstedt- Oregon alumnus
Oliver Luck- AD WV
Archie Manning- Ole Miss
Tom Osborne- Played, coached and AD'd Nebraska
Dan Radakovich- AD Clemson
Condoleezza Rice- Notre Dame alumna and current Stanford professor
Barry Alvarez- Nebraska alumnus and former Wisconsin hc/ad
Mike Tranghese- Big East commissioner for 18 years
Tyrone Willingham- Head coach Stanford, Notre Dame, Washington
Steve Wieberg- Missouri alumnus

And here's those not associated with major programs...
Lt. Gen. Michael Gould- Air Force


I feel bad for the smaller schools. They stand almost no chance against this board.
Posted by nycajun
Nothin' could be finer.....
Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 8:33 pm to
4 will become 6 or 8 within 10 years.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15087 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Why the frick didn't they do this...


Thanks, Nipps.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:34 pm to
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You people who wanted a playoff are in for a rude awakening.
I want a playoff but not like this one. It just takes the problem with the BCS and either does nothing to change it or makes it worse.
Posted by O
Mandeville
Member since Oct 2011
6736 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 10:02 pm to
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26348 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

I want a playoff but not like this one. It just takes the problem with the BCS and either does nothing to change it or makes it worse.


First off, it can't do nothing to change it. It's different no matter what now. 4 teams is better than 2 no matter how you look at it.

Secondly, good God y'all. Can you people at least let it play out one year before calling it a failure?

A selection committee is used for basketball and baseball. Yes there are gripes occasionally but nothing too serious. Y'all are crazy if you think the selection committee polls won't closely mirror the AP and Coaches poll.

The fight for the 5th spot will draw criticism, of course. But how often does the 5th ranked team at the end of the year really have that big of an argument to be in the national title game? Hardly ever.

It'll work out just fine. You will occasionally see two teams from one conference in it, though don't expect it too often, which is exactly how it should be. SOME weight should be given to winning your division and conference.

This is this best system we could have right now, except I'd rather it be 8 teams. We can finally take the computers out of this and leave it to a little more common sense.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 10:07 pm to
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good God y'all. Can you people at least let it play out one year before calling it a failure?
No, thanks.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26348 posts
Posted on 10/18/13 at 10:09 pm to
Will you eat crow when you agree with the 4 teams next year then?
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 10/19/13 at 12:03 am to
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Will you eat crow when you agree with the 4 teams next year then?
I won't agree with it. Zero chance. Zero.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36934 posts
Posted on 10/19/13 at 12:10 am to
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Because LSU is not a media darling


Is this the same one loss LSU team that is ranked by the Associated Press above Johnny Football and his A&M squad?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293746 posts
Posted on 10/19/13 at 12:11 am to
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The whole purpose of the playoff is to PREVENT Sec schools from dominating like they did under the fair and dispassionate computers of the BCS


WTF??

It gives SEC teams a better shot at the title game.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26348 posts
Posted on 10/19/13 at 12:15 am to
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I won't agree with it. Zero chance. Zero


Just trolling me now? Lol
Posted by ByteMe
Member since Sep 2003
22356 posts
Posted on 10/19/13 at 1:46 am to
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The committee will determine the top 4 teams. They aren't bound by any poll, or ranking; they won't need to account for how they evaluated strength of schedule. They have carte blanche to do whatever they want.


The committee hates LSU.

quote:

The whole purpose of the playoff is to PREVENT Sec schools from dominating like they did under the fair and dispassionate computers of the BCS. You're going to see a return to people in love with tOSU, Michigan, ND, USC, etc. picking them as the top 4 in the country if they have a pulse at season's end. I can guarantee you there will NEVER be an acknowledgement that two SEC schools are in the top 4 and both make the playoff.



The playoff system hates LSU.

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This committee is even worse than the old-old system of the AP selecting the champ. At least there were so many sportswriters that all schools had a chance of their quality being recognized. This playoff system will accomplish nothing other than shifting the controversy from "who should be #2?" to "who should have been #4?"


The perceived future hates LSU

Posted by 5230N
North Carolina/ Algiers
Member since Feb 2013
201 posts
Posted on 10/19/13 at 8:25 am to
Manning is part of the group. Does any one think he will vote for LSU. I will help you out. NEVER !
This post was edited on 10/19/13 at 8:26 am
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10464 posts
Posted on 10/19/13 at 9:18 am to
The BCS has been very good to LSU and
the SEC. The selection of the Committe
members has me scratching my arse!
What qualifies some of these people??
I'm good with Archie Manning but C. Rice???
And how long are these "experts" on the
Committe ? The Committe should change every
2 years.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31700 posts
Posted on 10/19/13 at 9:22 am to
Comparing it to affirmative action is appropriate. It has nothing to do with fairness, might as well accept this.
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