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re: Spinoff: LSU will be screwed under the "playoff" system
Posted on 10/18/13 at 12:36 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 10/18/13 at 12:36 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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What does that even mean, "as should all the polls"?
It means I don't think the AP or Coaches should release a poll until October. It would eliminate some of the preseason bias
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Posted on 10/18/13 at 12:39 pm to TigerCub
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It means I don't think the AP or Coaches should release a poll until October. It would eliminate some of the preseason bias
^^^ THIS
Posted on 10/18/13 at 12:40 pm to DadFanAlum
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I can guarantee you there will NEVER be an acknowledgement that two SEC schools are in the top 4 and both make the playoff.
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Because LSU is not a media darling,
Sportswriters have been writing hypothetical "who would be in a 4-team playoff if it started this year?" articles for at least 2-3 years now.
Pretty much every single one that I've seen has included 2 SEC teams.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 12:44 pm to DadFanAlum
Actually a play off favors us more. Means we can lose and get in.
I think the committee idea is stupid, these people dont have enough time to sit around and watch every game, but at least there are several people from all over. the bias would most likely cancel out. It doesnt take a smart person to realize LSU plays a harder schedule than UL.
So lets say we ended with Oregon, FSU, OSU, UL and LSU was a 1 loss sec champ. I think they would put LSU in. If not, then this system failed. would be worse than the previous one.
I think the committee idea is stupid, these people dont have enough time to sit around and watch every game, but at least there are several people from all over. the bias would most likely cancel out. It doesnt take a smart person to realize LSU plays a harder schedule than UL.
So lets say we ended with Oregon, FSU, OSU, UL and LSU was a 1 loss sec champ. I think they would put LSU in. If not, then this system failed. would be worse than the previous one.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 12:48 pm to alajones
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Only one SEC team should be in and it should be the Champion, assuming they have a comparable record to the other 3 invitees.
I dont agree. Lets say a 3 loss usc team beats an undefeated bama in the seccg. Bama would still prob make the play off.
Or lets say the seccg winner is undefeated and the loser has 1 loss. and everyone else has more than 1 loss. the loser of the game would prob get in still.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 12:50 pm to DadFanAlum
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and certainly not a favorite of any of the committee members
Jeff Long has been named to the committee. He and Les Miles are very close friends.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 12:52 pm to H-Town Tiger
you should probably wait for a time to make this argument when there aren't 8 teams from the SEC ranked in the top 25. Or just two years off where the Media got a very bland rematch of LSU/Alabama, which nobody including Lsu fans wanted. And LOL at "probably" picking undefeated teams overt a Lsu team who lost to UGA.your assumptions are far reaching.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 12:54 pm to DadFanAlum
quote:I could definitely see this happening.
You're going to see a return to people in love with tOSU, Michigan, ND, USC, etc. picking them as the top 4 in the country if they have a pulse at season's end.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:05 pm to DadFanAlum
keep BCS poll. Play off of the top 4
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:08 pm to TigerCub
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It means I don't think the AP or Coaches should release a poll until October. It would eliminate some of the preseason bias
I don't even...
We're supposed to be living in a free society, with freedom of speech and all.
The "polls" you refer to are opinion polls - one of which is the opinions of members of the press.
One thing about the press, they like to sell stuff they write - especially stuff that there is actual consumer demand for. (Trust me, if no one read the polls in August, they wouldn't be published in August.) They even have a Constitutional Amendment protecting that - it's the FIRST one.
So, in light of all of this, are you seriously proposing we tell the press that they cannot publish their opinions at a particular time - even though consumers want it?
I see this all the time, people complaining that "the polls shouldn't come out until ____." but the ONLY way to 'enforce' that is to not have anyone actually consuming the product until later in the season.
I don't think people ever think this through as to what they're actually proposing, censoring the press.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:13 pm to DamnStrong1860
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Make them join the ACC or Big 10 and problem solved.
Clearly you don't know too much about how conference membership is attained. quote:Doesn't matter. Not all teams are in conferences, and a conference championship does not in indicate a team's entire season. Conference affiliation should be completely ignored.
The point I really wanted to make is that if you don't win your conference you should have no expectation of making the championship game. Maybe it can happen if you have an otherwise exceptional season but if it doesn't, you shouldn't gripe about it because you had your chance. Especially if you play in a league like the SEC which is all but guaranteed a spot in the playoffs every year.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:15 pm to dgnx6
quote:You are correct. The committee is a poll. That was the problem in the first place. That's exactly WHY we had the BCS.
I think the committee idea is stupid
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:21 pm to ballscaster
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You are correct. The committee is a poll. That was the problem in the first place. That's exactly WHY we had the BCS.
I agree with this.
They should have taken the BCS exactly as it stands now and let #1 - #4 play in a playoff.
That way you would have a much larger sample of people and computers determining who plays.
AND they should add the SOS component back in to the formula.
The fact that you have active athletic directors on this committee is a joke.
This post was edited on 10/18/13 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:24 pm to DadFanAlum
I hope student attendance at games isn't one of the deciding factors for who makes the playoffs. LSU would never make it in!!! 
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:33 pm to SG_Geaux
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AND they should add the SOS component back in to the formula.
SOS is actually still in the formula as it is a component in most of the computer rankings used in the BCS.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:37 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
So now we are in favor of non conference champs getting a shot? I know we used to hate it, but now we want it?
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:43 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Since we're talking playoffs, many years ago I advocated for a 16 team playoff and actually made out a season schedule and Bowl schedule that would keep the season to 15 games for the NC participants and 14 games for nearly everyone else.
Still had a nice bowl season and all.
16 teams is the only way to go. That way you have room for non-big conference teams, teams that maybe had in season 3-4 week injuries of key players, or teams that were really putting it together late in the season.
Eventually I believe we will get there.
Still had a nice bowl season and all.
16 teams is the only way to go. That way you have room for non-big conference teams, teams that maybe had in season 3-4 week injuries of key players, or teams that were really putting it together late in the season.
Eventually I believe we will get there.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:43 pm to tigerfoot
Just wait
This is going to be a train wreck
This is going to be a train wreck
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:47 pm to Meauxjeaux
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16 teams is the only way to go
WRONG
The vast majority of season, there are only 3 or 4 teams really worthy of title discussion.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 1:47 pm to DadFanAlum
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Hahahaha. What a joke. You people who wanted a playoff are in for a rude awakening.
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The committee will determine the top 4 teams. They aren't bound by any poll, or ranking; they won't need to account for how they evaluated strength of schedule. They have carte blanche to do whatever they want.
What part of that sounds like a playoff to you?
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