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re: Something that can't be understated..........
Posted on 9/18/13 at 9:11 am to Choupique19
Posted on 9/18/13 at 9:11 am to Choupique19
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Well I can guarantee you that Copeland would not have gotten a 15 yarder last year in the first half against Bama wiping out a first down at the Bama 13 yard line if he played for a coach "a la Saban".
Then I guess it's safe to assume that Saban hasn't mentioned anything about celebration/throat slash penalties to this year's Bama team. Because certainly Yeldon wouldn't have done that otherwise.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 9:22 am to ForeLSU
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Then I guess it's safe to assume that Saban hasn't mentioned anything about celebration/throat slash penalties to this year's Bama team. Because certainly Yeldon wouldn't have done that otherwise.
Great point! Did you watch what happened when Yeldon got to the sidelines? You do realize that I pointed out that Copeland was warned twice before he got the 15 yard late hit? I was at the game, and you wouldn't have seen it on tv, but on two seperate occasions Copeland got into shoving matches with Bama players after the play, and the refs kept warning Copeland. It was the on the third occasion that he got flagged.
Did you see that Saban forced Yeldon to write an apology for his actions? Let's watch and see how many 15 yard unsportsman like conducts Yeldon gets the rest of the year.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 9:54 am to Choupique19
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Great point! Did you watch what happened when Yeldon got to the sidelines?
yes, basically the same thing that happened when Copeland got to the sidelines
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I was at the game, and you wouldn't have seen it on tv, but on two seperate occasions Copeland got into shoving matches with Bama players after the play, and the refs kept warning Copeland. It was the on the third occasion that he got flagged.
he wasn't penalized for a shoving match but blocking a guy after the play was over...granted it was a vicious block. It was a bone-head play. He sat the rest of the first half.
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Did you see that Saban forced Yeldon to write an apology for his actions?
no, outside of watching an occasional game when LSU is not on, I don't really follow Saban and Alabama.
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Let's watch and see how many 15 yard unsportsman like conducts Yeldon gets the rest of the year.
How many has Copeland had since the Bama game? In going through the game notes, I couldn't find any.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:11 am to mwade91383
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I just think that Stud having the ability to be on the sidelines focused squarley on the OL during on gameday and not worry about the play calling up in the box has had a real positive influence on the situation in the trenches.
good point and it sounds familiar for some reason.
get better, get ready...get even.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:22 am to ForeLSU
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yes, basically the same thing that happened when Copeland got to the sidelines
It should have happened after the first warning and then maybe he would have never received the flag that REALLY hurt the team.
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he wasn't penalized for a shoving match but blocking a guy after the play was over...granted it was a vicious block. It was a bone-head play. He sat the rest of the first half.
About 30 yards away from the play.
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How many has Copeland had since the Bama game? In going through the game notes, I couldn't find any.
Since the Bama game, I don't know. But he had had them before. But the fact is that he got one against Bama and it took points off the board for LSU. Very, very costly.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:41 am to mwade91383
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Stud's move back down to the sideline. I saw him giving it to one of the lineman the other day after a blown assignment or something and I couldn't help but think that his presence down there has made a difference for the OL this year.
So if someone said that the move didn't make much difference, would they be...."understating" the importance of it?
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:45 am to Choupique19
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Well I can guarantee you that Copeland would not have gotten a 15 yarder last year in the first half against Bama wiping out a first down at the Bama 13 yard line if he played for a coach "a la Saban".
No doubt. Thank goodness we never got personal foul penalties when Saban was here. Especially not on a field goal attempt in the national championship game that took points off the board that would have had us two scores ahead at the end instead of one. Thank goodness.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 11:14 am to Dalosaqy
quote:Well, yeah. We can go with the passing game if the running game isn't potent (as we've seen at times this season); we can lean on Hill et al if the WRs get banged up. We could go 9-3 or 10-2 being 1 dimensional, this year (as either dimension is very good).
Health is key for this unit.
As opposed to other units?
O-line breaks down, and the whole offense will go to hell. Suddenly 7-5 becomes a possibility.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 11:16 am to Choupique19
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Great point! Did you watch what happened when Yeldon got to the sidelines? You do realize that I pointed out that Copeland was warned twice before he got the 15 yard late hit? I was at the game, and you wouldn't have seen it on tv, but on two seperate occasions Copeland got into shoving matches with Bama players after the play, and the refs kept warning Copeland. It was the on the third occasion that he got flagged.
Both were stupid, but Yeldon's COULD have caused aTm to score at the end of half and cost them the game as well.
I think some players need different types of motivation and discipline. It's up to the coaches to determine. I've seen Miles pretty fired up at players, it just takes a bit more to get him to that point.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 11:25 am to Scoob
Health is key for all units O, D, ST. We had ample evidence of that last year.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:01 pm to Dalosaqy
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As opposed to other units?
You dumb.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 3:07 pm to Choupique19
quote:I'll be following LSU while you keep track of Saban's hissyfits.
Let's watch and see how many 15 yard unsportsman like conducts Yeldon gets the rest of the year.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 3:12 pm to cajunjj
And if the O puts 12 on Aubie again, it all comes crashing down. To me it's still way to early to be so convinced.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 3:28 pm to Choupique19
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Well I can guarantee you that Copeland would not have gotten a 15 yarder last year in the first half against Bama wiping out a first down at the Bama 13 yard line if he played for a coach "a la Saban". Copeland had been warned twice by the refs before that play. No worries, it only pushed us back to the 28 yard line, and it only took points off of the board (aborted fake field goal), and killed LSU's momentum for the first half. I don't think anyone really wanted to go to the SEC Championship game with a shot at the national title anyway.
Sounds like you need to go to walmart and buy you a couple of them "got 14?" shirts.....
Posted on 9/18/13 at 3:39 pm to mwade91383
Something that can't be understated is having talented, physical players that will dominate the point of attack.
What can be understated is Stud's role, and Miles' emphasis on chemistry.
What can be understated is Stud's role, and Miles' emphasis on chemistry.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 3:43 pm to Nuts4LSU
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So if someone said that the move didn't make much difference, would they be...."understating" the importance of it?
He's very clever with this I tell ya. See, the on-field production by the O Line has been so significant, that it clearly speaks volumes all by itself. So, having said that--there is no way to legitimately understate the effect of the change.
EDIT: oh just jk. the correct term here should be "overstate".
This post was edited on 9/18/13 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 9/18/13 at 4:19 pm to tke857
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(kind of how a son doesn't want to let down his father)
You haven't met my son!
Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:18 pm to mwade91383
I might be wrong to post this, but I got this great breakdown from tigerrag editor cody worsham.
cody really gives a great breakdown of some of the game and even I can UNDERSTAND! ??
I hope it is ok to share this link:
LINK FILM STUDY: Wednesday Rewind
thanks to cody.
cody really gives a great breakdown of some of the game and even I can UNDERSTAND! ??
I hope it is ok to share this link:
LINK FILM STUDY: Wednesday Rewind
thanks to cody.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 6:42 pm to Choupique19
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Well I can guarantee you that Copeland would not have gotten a 15 yarder last year in the first half against Bama wiping out a first down at the Bama 13 yard line if he played for a coach "a la Saban". Copeland had been warned twice by the refs before that play.
We had more defensive penalties than offensive last season. Chavis is known for being intense and laying into players. obviously he cant do that in the booth. but defensuve penalties extended bama and ckemsins game winning drives. But since miles controls the defense, lets blame his approach.
on another note, ive seen miles lay into players. he just doesnt flip his shite like spurrier, pelini and muschamp.
oh and miles bashers actually wanted bo over miles. bo wint be nebraskas coach next year.
Posted on 9/19/13 at 2:08 am to cajunjj
quote:Rant X-Boxer's that have never worn a jock don't have a clue what actually playing football is all about. "Hard arse yelling football coaches hurt players feelings and make them feel bad and sad." OMG, what massive vajayjay's on here.
Getting on a player when he screws up doesn't work. I guess that is why Saban is going for his 3rd. NC in a ro
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