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re: Someone help me out.. why do you start Jefferson?

Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:24 am to
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3726 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:24 am to
I agree. Miles has to be careful with the mental state of both QBs right now. Lee took some big steps forward in the last game. Miles doesn't want that to unravel in a hostile environment.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:24 am to
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You can pound your chest all you want about JJ's running ability but our offense has been absolute dog shite through 5 games.

"frick you, sir."

- Stevan Ridley, SEC leading rusher, #15 nationally.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:25 am to
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Passing QBs:
JL>JJ>RS

Fail...
RS has to throw better then JJ....he's 119 out of 120 in the country...my grandmother throws better then JJ...
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So what's the best compromise?

Run with Shep, pass with lee...like i said then you dont have to swap personnell....missed that didnt you...

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If you have NO threat to pass (with RS) then the defense just plays man and stops the play at the line.


kinda like they do with JJ...

and if our dumbass coach throws with shep one time you'll eat your words....kid can throw...

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And until JL shows a REAL threat to throw, they can still play man in the secondary and stop the run at the line with 7 on 6.

two 4th down conversions and a march down the field to win the game isnt a REAL threat...you sir are a complete fail!
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:26 am to
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filmmaker45

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Lee was at Walk Ons last night and talked with Matt Mascona on 104.5 for about 5 mins in the back end of the show. Mascona asked hm "Do you feel more comfortable coming off the bench?" Lee responded "Yes, it takes a little pressure off and gives me some confidence"


i believe you...but I also believe he was told to say this...
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:26 am to
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Yeah, 16/23 for 185 yds isn't effective at all.

Marching the team down for the game winning drive isn't effective at all.

You have no credibility left after that comment.


that dude is in serious denial...
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:27 am to
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THAT is 150% on the coach's bub. That call NEVER should have been made.

Wrong. It was a terrible pass.

The ball was thrown short and behind Ridley. It should've been thrown to the corner.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:27 am to
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At this point he presents NO threat to pass because he has never attempted one. If he attempts one, then all bets are off. So the question is, why hasn't he attempted one?


im not sure either...i saw the kid play in high school 4 times...he can throw...period...hopefully we can see sometime soon...and when he does...there will be no reason have JJ in the Game...
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:28 am to
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Just because JL is a 'better' passer than JJ does NOT mean he's an effective passer




I'd say picking up the 4th and 14 was pretty "effective" wouldn't you?


Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:32 am to
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I guess you missed JJ's 18 yard run for a TD vs State.


thats pretty bad when you have to think about "the other one" of 18 yds....

and he is not near of a threat to run as RS is

Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:34 am to
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THAT should have been the game-winning drive.

wow...

thats a fail of epic proportions...
the guy gets his first real pt of the year, goes down the field in the closing min of the 4th qtr and you say that he wasnt effective because he didnt do it in the drive before?

and you are defending JJ?....holy shite that might the most retarded things iver heard...and this is the RANT!
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:37 am to
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Your argument now is the "what if" game?

No, you idiot, he threw 1 interception to ZERO touchdowns. That's not good.

He threw for 8 yards per attempt. While that may be far better than Jefferson, it still is NOT GOOD.

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JJ threw an int to a man ON HIS KNEES with NO RECEIVER nearby. That is the definition of TERRIBLE.

Wrong, he overthrew the TE. While not a good pass, there was a target. Unlike Lee in the first half.

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JJ went in because Miles had a want to run the ball. Not because JJ is the better qb. If you could not see that from the game

Good lord, man, try not to comment if you don't even care to follow the thread.

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So JL was able to do it twice (1 ending less than favorable)

No, JL was able to get the offense into the red zone twice. "less than favorable" If he threw that ball away, LSU kicks a FG, and then doesn't need a TD on the last drive...

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and JJ can't do it at all.


...which JJ led the team to a score on.

In short, JL doesn't throw the INT, JJ doens't have to come in at the end of the game because all LSU need would've been a FG - hell, LSU wouldn't have even needed that phantom interference call in the end zone on the last drive.

I agree that JL gives LSU a better chance to come from behind in a game by throwing the ball - but it's not that much better than people want to think. He's just not that good.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107049 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:38 am to
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i really want to get an x-ray to see what that man is thinking


Courtesy of sawfiddle on the fark board, an update of a brain scan of Miles made by LSUfreek in 2007.

Posted by stephendomalley
alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
6476 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:39 am to
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Think it is to keep the pressure off of Lee, but he get most of the snaps in my opinion
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the entire tiger nation hopes that our head coach is thinking this rationally. this actually makes good sense.

please, tiger fans, in order to protect you own sanity, be prepared - it is entirely possible that JJ stays in the entire game. not a prediction, but it is entirely possible. No rational explanation, but who can offer one for how this offense has been run all year?

you can't, so just be ready to accept some unexplainable decisions.

in case you can't, the men in the white coats will be standing by. all leaves and vacations for all asylums have been closed this weekend in order to handle any potential overload of tigerfans losing their minds and going off the deep end.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
10850 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:39 am to
Urban Meyer is not sitting there thinking "oh no!!! how can i stop this ever elusive JJ!! He's the next coming of Mike Vick!!! I must have him shadowed all over the field at all times so he doesn't burn us!" Meyer has the athletes that can stand their ground and make tackles. So no, JJ is not a game changer for us in this match up. I do agree to some extent one can argue that they want to see what Fla will do, and make them prepare for 2 QB's...out side of that it's assinine that anyone still says JJ is the better QB. JJ rarely makes it passed the line when running, rarely passes, throws too many INTs and is a liability when in.
Posted by FAN4LSU
South West La. from NOLA
Member since Nov 2006
558 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:42 am to
2 WORDS ! MILES EGO
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:42 am to
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The ball was thrown short and behind Ridley. It should've been thrown to the corner.


it was a wheel route, not a fade
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
7279 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:45 am to
As long as Lee winds up with a majority of the snaps, I can tolerate having JJ starting, though I don't agree with it. I still think that JJ has to wake up & realize he's a third year college football player and that a coach does not have to soothe his ego by starting him--he needs to realize he must play a lot better to merit playing time & if there are performances like last week, he has no choice but to accept a large reduction in playing time.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:47 am to
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...which JJ led the team to a score on.


JJ led the team to score on the last drive?

Denial is not just a river in Africa.

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I agree that JL gives LSU a better chance to come from behind in a game by throwing the ball -


or to put points on the board, sustain drives, play the field position game, etc, etc...

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He's just not that good.



Still better than the worst qb in FBS.
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7718 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:47 am to
It keeps Lee hungry,...so when he does go out, notice I said when, not if,...he's more DETERMINED to make the Tigers better...this is how I would approach it, it worked last week,..why change it..but I would give him more playig time than last week....
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 10/7/10 at 11:47 am to
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No, you idiot, he threw 1 interception to ZERO touchdowns. That's not good.


so what do you think about 2 Interceptions and no touchdowns?....cause your boy did that...Twice.

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Wrong, he overthrew the TE. While not a good pass, there was a target. Unlike Lee in the first half.

the target was ridley 1 foot away...a corner fade to a guy 5'10 makes instead of TT who is 6'4 makes all the sense in the world...

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No, JL was able to get the offense into the red zone twice


hell, JJ cant even get us there...so....something is better then nothing...at least we might have an opportunity to kick a field goal with lee in...

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In short, JL doesn't throw the INT, JJ doens't have to come in at the end of the game because all LSU need would've been a FG - hell, LSU wouldn't have even needed that phantom interference call in the end zone on the last drive.


wow....utterly....wow...holy shite....i just dont have the words...im dumbfounded like dooley...

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I agree that JL gives LSU a better chance to come from behind in a game by throwing the ball - but it's not that much better than people want to think. He's just not that good.


If you think JL isnt that good based on performance id love to hear your opin on JJ and his performance...
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