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Somebody finally found the rule book
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:45 pm
Tampering = 2 years
Substituting sample = 1 year
He attempted to substitute, not tamper with the sample
Doesn’t make what he did any less wrong, but he has completed his sentence as per the rule book. The incorrect charge should have been caught more than a year ago
Substituting sample = 1 year
He attempted to substitute, not tamper with the sample
Doesn’t make what he did any less wrong, but he has completed his sentence as per the rule book. The incorrect charge should have been caught more than a year ago
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:46 pm to Fonpaul
I'm happy Fulton is back. I'll leave it at that.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:46 pm to Fonpaul
The NCAA has no idea what is in their own rule book. It is a convoluted disaster.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:46 pm to Fonpaul
How the hell does it take that long to figure something so simple out?
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:48 pm to adamb2151
It just seems that the lawyer representing Fulton in the appeal process should have stumbled on that little nugget before filing the appeal.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:50 pm to Fonpaul
That was my first thought when I heard. What was he paying his lawyer for? He should have figured that out.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 2:00 pm to Fonpaul
and CUM got a wrist slap for covering up domestic abuse
sickening
sickening
Posted on 8/24/18 at 2:01 pm to Houston Texas Tiger
Im telling you, nobody knows whats all in the NCAA rule book. It is an absolute disaster. shite has been added and amended in that thing for years. It is full of contradictions.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 2:19 pm to Fonpaul
Wow! This is a fish take on the subject... Come on, man, there's like 350 threads on this matter, already.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 2:21 pm to Fonpaul
He did.
If you go back and look at article during the appeal this thing is mentioned a lot.
Someone posted that basically it’s 2 different appeals, one is an appeal of the process and procedure andnonwnis an appeal of the rule violation.
The question should be why did he pay a lawyer at all, how did the school bat catch this when he was first punished.
If you go back and look at article during the appeal this thing is mentioned a lot.
Someone posted that basically it’s 2 different appeals, one is an appeal of the process and procedure andnonwnis an appeal of the rule violation.
The question should be why did he pay a lawyer at all, how did the school bat catch this when he was first punished.
This post was edited on 8/24/18 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 8/24/18 at 2:54 pm to mostbesttigerfanever
quote:
And CUM got a wrist slap for covering up domestic abuse
That punishment was handed out by Ohio St., not the NCAA. The NCAA doesn’t have jurisdiction over the Meyer case. They are in charge of teams and players gaining a competitive advantage in situations such as performance enhancers, players getting extra cash and benefits, illegal recruiting methods, etc...not situations like the Meyer one.
I keep seeing people post stuff like this on here and twitter. If you are upset about the inconsistency in punishment, then you should actually want the NCAA to have more power.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 2:55 pm to Fonpaul
quote:
Tampering = 2 years
Substituting sample = 1 year
How did it take them a whole year to figure this out?
Posted on 8/24/18 at 3:05 pm to Fonpaul
I was wondering all along what consituted tampering?
Would it be something along the lines of "rendering a sample un-representative of what the body would produce at that time".
so would dilution? use of masking agents ingested? what about making agents added (did produce a sample "naturally")?
and then all along, there was this "substitution" rule that necessarily excluded it as "tampering" due to being specifically cited.
frick
THE
NoCountAssholeAccountants
Would it be something along the lines of "rendering a sample un-representative of what the body would produce at that time".
so would dilution? use of masking agents ingested? what about making agents added (did produce a sample "naturally")?
and then all along, there was this "substitution" rule that necessarily excluded it as "tampering" due to being specifically cited.
frick
THE
NoCountAssholeAccountants
Posted on 8/24/18 at 3:10 pm to Fonpaul
The NCAA read my posts and agreed.
Posted on 8/24/18 at 3:18 pm to Fonpaul
quote:
It just seems that the lawyer representing Fulton in the appeal process should have stumbled on that little nugget before filing the appeal.
He did. He specifically mentioned both rules by their number in the rule book as part of the grounds of his appeal. That's been a major foundation of the appeal's case the whole time.
AUG 10, 2018:
quote:
Jackson argued there should have been a new container for the urine sample per NCAA rules, a violation of protocol. He argued Fulton should have been punished under NCAA Bylaw 3.3, which governs athletes who attempt to alter the collection process but was instead punished under Bylaw 3.4, which involves a case of observed drug test sample tampering.
JUL 18, 2018:
quote:
It appears Fulton’s lawyer isn’t challenging that allegation; rather, he’s questioning the rule — 3.4 of The Association’s Drug-Testing protocol, to be specific — that was applied by the NCAA.
Jackson feels that Fulton violated rule 3.3
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