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Somebody finally found the rule book

Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Fonpaul
recently repatriated to Houston
Member since Jul 2016
337 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:45 pm
Tampering = 2 years
Substituting sample = 1 year
He attempted to substitute, not tamper with the sample
Doesn’t make what he did any less wrong, but he has completed his sentence as per the rule book. The incorrect charge should have been caught more than a year ago
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56529 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:46 pm to
I'm happy Fulton is back. I'll leave it at that.
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:46 pm to
The NCAA has no idea what is in their own rule book. It is a convoluted disaster.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:46 pm to
How the hell does it take that long to figure something so simple out?
Posted by Fonpaul
recently repatriated to Houston
Member since Jul 2016
337 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:48 pm to
It just seems that the lawyer representing Fulton in the appeal process should have stumbled on that little nugget before filing the appeal.
Posted by Houston Texas Tiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2004
1414 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 1:50 pm to
That was my first thought when I heard. What was he paying his lawyer for? He should have figured that out.
Posted by mostbesttigerfanever
TD platinum member suite in TS
Member since Jan 2010
5016 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 2:00 pm to
and CUM got a wrist slap for covering up domestic abuse




sickening
Posted by adamb2151
Houston, Texas
Member since Jun 2013
6586 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 2:01 pm to
Im telling you, nobody knows whats all in the NCAA rule book. It is an absolute disaster. shite has been added and amended in that thing for years. It is full of contradictions.
Posted by jmon
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2010
8416 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 2:19 pm to
Wow! This is a fish take on the subject... Come on, man, there's like 350 threads on this matter, already.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66566 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 2:21 pm to
He did.

If you go back and look at article during the appeal this thing is mentioned a lot.


Someone posted that basically it’s 2 different appeals, one is an appeal of the process and procedure andnonwnis an appeal of the rule violation.

The question should be why did he pay a lawyer at all, how did the school bat catch this when he was first punished.
This post was edited on 8/24/18 at 2:23 pm
Posted by BearTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2006
1633 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

And CUM got a wrist slap for covering up domestic abuse


That punishment was handed out by Ohio St., not the NCAA. The NCAA doesn’t have jurisdiction over the Meyer case. They are in charge of teams and players gaining a competitive advantage in situations such as performance enhancers, players getting extra cash and benefits, illegal recruiting methods, etc...not situations like the Meyer one.

I keep seeing people post stuff like this on here and twitter. If you are upset about the inconsistency in punishment, then you should actually want the NCAA to have more power.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77614 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

Tampering = 2 years
Substituting sample = 1 year


How did it take them a whole year to figure this out?
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12901 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 3:05 pm to
I was wondering all along what consituted tampering?

Would it be something along the lines of "rendering a sample un-representative of what the body would produce at that time".

so would dilution? use of masking agents ingested? what about making agents added (did produce a sample "naturally")?

and then all along, there was this "substitution" rule that necessarily excluded it as "tampering" due to being specifically cited.

frick

THE

NoCountAssholeAccountants
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64661 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 3:10 pm to
The NCAA read my posts and agreed.
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 8/24/18 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

It just seems that the lawyer representing Fulton in the appeal process should have stumbled on that little nugget before filing the appeal.


He did. He specifically mentioned both rules by their number in the rule book as part of the grounds of his appeal. That's been a major foundation of the appeal's case the whole time.

AUG 10, 2018:
quote:

Jackson argued there should have been a new container for the urine sample per NCAA rules, a violation of protocol. He argued Fulton should have been punished under NCAA Bylaw 3.3, which governs athletes who attempt to alter the collection process but was instead punished under Bylaw 3.4, which involves a case of observed drug test sample tampering.


JUL 18, 2018:

quote:

It appears Fulton’s lawyer isn’t challenging that allegation; rather, he’s questioning the rule — 3.4 of The Association’s Drug-Testing protocol, to be specific — that was applied by the NCAA.

Jackson feels that Fulton violated rule 3.3



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